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JorWat
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Post by JorWat » December 10th, 2017, 10:14 am

DrPGould wrote:Jordan:

In section 39 there are a number of referents to the hand drawn diagram of a bee's stinging apparatus with the points labelled a, b, c, etc.

A representative sentence is: "The sheath or case seem'd to have several joints or settings together, marked by fghiklmno, it was arm'd moreover neer the top, with several crooks or forks (pqrst) on one side..."

I am concerned that if I read that "as is" the listener will be confused. At the beginning of the reading there is a reference to "the second Figure of the XVI. Scheme" but it does not mention that the points of the figure will be referred to. My thought is to insert something like "This section references specific points on this figure by letters of the alphabet--a, b, c, etc" after the sentence mentioning the figure.

Another option is simply to delete the references (italicized in the sentence above) and just read the text (as we often do with bibliographic footnotes). There may be other options, but these three occurred to me immediately.

I'm prepared to proceed in whatever manner you think is best.

Many thanks,

Philip
Hi Philip,

It is a good question. The book is very dependent on its diagrams. I think the best solution would be to include a link to the pictures, like with this project. As such, I think you should leave the text as it is. I feel removing the references or adding in explanations would stray too far from the original text. Because they're embedded in the text, they're not as easy to remove as a footnote would be.

Take this paragraph, for example:
We will suppose therefore in the first Figure ACFD to be a physical Ray, or ABC and DEF to be two Mathematical Rays, trajected from a very remote point of a luminous body through an Homogeneous transparent medium LLL, and DA, EB, FC, to be small portions of the orbicular impulses which must therefore cut the Rays at right angles; these Rays meeting with the plain surface NO of a medium that yields an easier transitus to the propagation of light, and falling obliquely on it, they will in the medium MMM be refracted towards the perpendicular of the surface. And because this medium is more easily trajected then the former by a third, therefore the point C of the orbicular pulse FC will be mov'd to H four spaces in the same time that F the other end of it is mov'd to G three spaces, therefore the whole refracted pulse GH shall be oblique to the refracted Rays CHK and GI; and the angle GHC shall be an acute, and so much the more acute by how much the greater the refraction be, then which nothing is more evident, for the sign of the inclination is to the sign of refraction as GF to TC the distance between the point C and the perpendicular from G on CK, which being as four to three, HC being longer then GF is longer also then TC, therefore the angle GHC is less than GTC. So that henceforth the parts of the pulses GH and IK are mov'd ascew, or cut the Rays at oblique angles.
It would be basically impossible to remove all those references to the diagrams.
Jordan

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Post by JorWat » December 10th, 2017, 2:29 pm

Nuria wrote:Here comes section 6:


https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3 4:15
Hi Nuria,

Here are your notes:

3:00: 'much to the same appearances must be necessary to follow' should be 'much the same appearances must necessarily follow'
3:29 (not required): 'that one of silk' should be 'that of silk'
4:09: The ending silence is a little too long. It should be about 5 seconds, and yours is about 6.2 seconds
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Post by Nuria » December 11th, 2017, 9:48 am

Here is the corrected section 6:

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3 4:14

The second error which you deemed not required is not corrected, but I'll try to read slowlier for the next section, so I hope not to make these small errors.
Thanks for the comments :)

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Post by Nuria » December 11th, 2017, 11:09 am

Section 7:
https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3 4:02

May I do next section 19? I'd like to try something longer.

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Post by JorWat » December 11th, 2017, 3:19 pm

Nuria wrote:Section 7:
https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3 4:02

May I do next section 19? I'd like to try something longer.
6 and 7 are both PL OK!

And Section 19 is all yours.
Jordan

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Post by Nuria » December 16th, 2017, 9:14 am

JorWat wrote: And Section 19 is all yours.
Thanks, here is it:

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3 17:12

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Post by DrPGould » December 17th, 2017, 11:43 am

Jordan:

Here is the link for Section 39. Running time is 5:41.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3

Many thanks,

Philip
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Post by JorWat » December 17th, 2017, 1:06 pm

Nuria wrote:
JorWat wrote: And Section 19 is all yours.
Thanks, here is it:

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3 17:12
DrPGould wrote:Jordan:

Here is the link for Section 39. Running time is 5:41.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3

Many thanks,

Philip
Both are PL OK!
Jordan

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Post by Steve » December 23rd, 2017, 1:09 pm

Hi Jordan

Section 12 uploaded:

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3

Duration: 15:23

Steve

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Post by JorWat » December 23rd, 2017, 1:31 pm

Steve wrote:Hi Jordan

Section 12 uploaded:

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3

Duration: 15:23

Steve
Hi Steve,

PL OK!

Man, that had some long sentences...
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Post by DrPGould » December 30th, 2017, 4:01 pm

Hello Jordan and Ava:

Here is the link for Section 40. Running time is 9:36.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3

Many thanks and Happy New Year!

Philip
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Post by JorWat » December 31st, 2017, 6:04 am

DrPGould wrote:Hello Jordan and Ava:

Here is the link for Section 40. Running time is 9:36.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/mi ... _128kb.mp3

Many thanks and Happy New Year!

Philip
Hi Philip,

Here are your notes:

4:08: 'Schem. 22. Fig. 1.' is a sidenote, so shouldn't be read
6:33: 'Schem. 22. Fig. 2.' is a sidenote.
Jordan

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Post by DrPGould » December 31st, 2017, 9:46 am

Jordan:

I have uploaded the corrections. The new file length is 9:30. The "flow" of those passages is much better now. Sorry for my thick headedness.

Many thanks,

Philip
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Post by JorWat » December 31st, 2017, 9:57 am

DrPGould wrote:Jordan:

I have uploaded the corrections. The new file length is 9:30. The "flow" of those passages is much better now. Sorry for my thick headedness.

Many thanks,

Philip
PL OK!
Jordan

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