[COMPLETE] Christmas Carol Collection 2021 - ans

Solo or group recordings that are finished and fully available for listeners
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Nedge wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 5:35 pm "If you choose, you may sing PD carol lyrics to an original tune made up by yourself. If you are using your own tune, please make sure to say so."

I don't understand. If it's a PD carol, wouldn't you be allowed to sing it to the original melody?
Yes, by all means! Most contributors do sing to the original PD melody! That is the usual way.

However, there are a couple of circumstances where folks may choose to make up their own tune.

(1) In some cases, the words to an old carol appear in a carol book without any melody provided, perhaps on the assumption that everyone back then already knew the melody. In such a case, our LV contributor may create a suitable melody to fill this lack, as long as the original PD words are being used. For example, if you look back at previous years' carol collections, you may notice a number of older French carols to which Ezwa has supplied melodies, as the sources she used for the words did not include any melody.

(2) In some cases, the contributor has an idea of what sort of melody would fit the words, and the traditional melody or melodies don't quite satisfy. So the singer makes their own tune. Again, as long as the words are PD, and as long as the singer is not using a modern copyrighted melody, this is fine. Consider it a part of the "folk process".

But in most cases, contributors simply use the already existing PD music.
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It came upon a Midnight Clear
Edmund Sears (1810 - 1876)
English

Text: Christmas carols we love to sing (various authors/composers)
http://hdl.handle.net/2027/pst.000067569229
Page 19

The tune is my own improvisation on a traditional hymn tune, but not the one usually associated with this carol.

mp3:
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_itcameuponamidnightclear_asm_128kb.mp3
2.44

As no-one else has contributed yet, here is another one :wink:
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alanmapstone wrote: November 24th, 2021, 3:39 am It came upon a Midnight Clear
Edmund Sears (1810 - 1876)
English

Text: Christmas carols we love to sing (various authors/composers)
http://hdl.handle.net/2027/pst.000067569229
Page 19

The tune is my own improvisation on a traditional hymn tune, but not the one usually associated with this carol.

mp3:
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_itcameuponamidnightclear_asm_128kb.mp3
2.44

As no-one else has contributed yet, here is another one :wink:
Lovely! I had never heard that third verse before, which is usually omitted.
I recognized the hymn tune you sang it to, although I was used to hearing it with different words. I looked it up in "Hymnary" just to verify that is is PD. Hymnary says:
"Thought by some scholars to date back to the Middle Ages, Kingsfold is a folk tune set to a variety of texts in England and Ireland. The tune was published in English Country Songs (1893)."
So the tune is fine!
I've marked this contribution PL OK! Thank you, Alan!
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Well, as much as I enjoy recording prose and poetry, I think this singing thing might be the most fun of all. (For the recording person, anyway...listeners MAY feel differently lol). This old time offering runs 2:05 . Not sure if I got the filename right (never had to add underscores before) but it seemed to pass our 'checker' friend, (even with 'God' in lowercase, disconcerting as that may be).

https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_all_glory_to_god_bc_128kb.mp3

I may yet take advantage of rule 7, multiple submissions allowed (within reason) but I'll practice my scales a little more first.

Thanks much,
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Oops! Appears I made a number of errors in my original uploading/notification. SO, I've eliminated the underscores in my song title (goof one) and include my links and biographical info here:

Link to song: http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/a/g/g/p/aggpuear.htm
Language: English
Link to (corrected filename) file: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_allglorytogod_bc_128kb.mp3
Lyrics author: Charles Wesley, 1707-1788
Music author: Charles H. Gabriel 1856-1932 (or possibly made up by me, as following organ music in song is not one of my strengths)
Hymn title: All Glory to God
Duration: 2:05

Sorry for the errant submission, and thanks again,
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BrizeCrize wrote: December 1st, 2021, 9:44 am Well, as much as I enjoy recording prose and poetry, I think this singing thing might be the most fun of all. (For the recording person, anyway...listeners MAY feel differently lol). This old time offering runs 2:05 . Not sure if I got the filename right (never had to add underscores before) but it seemed to pass our 'checker' friend, (even with 'God' in lowercase, disconcerting as that may be).
I may yet take advantage of rule 7, multiple submissions allowed (within reason) but I'll practice my scales a little more first.
BrizeCrize wrote: December 1st, 2021, 11:00 am Oops! Appears I made a number of errors in my original uploading/notification. SO, I've eliminated the underscores in my song title (goof one) and include my links and biographical info here:

Link to song: http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/a/g/g/p/aggpuear.htm
Language: English
Link to (corrected filename) file: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_allglorytogod_bc_128kb.mp3
Lyrics author: Charles Wesley, 1707-1788
Music author: Charles H. Gabriel 1856-1932 (or possibly made up by me, as following organ music in song is not one of my strengths)
Hymn title: All Glory to God
Duration: 2:05
Thank you, Brize, for this good old carol. It is PL OK! Yes, please do take advantage of rule 7! I agree -- Singing is the most fun!
BTW, the second file name is quite correct, so thank you for going back to fix that. File names can be corrected at the end, but it's easier if they are correct to begin with.
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Another carol (or hymn) attached. If nothing else, this little exercise makes you appreciate the efforts and abilities of singers (of all stripes) a little more. (I tend to expect too much perhaps). It's a lot harder than it seems to make your recorded voice sound delightful...or even completely in-tune! Thanks again for the opportunity to try!

Recording link: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_achildisborninbethlehem_bc_128kb.mp3
Text link: http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/c/h/i/l/b/chilborn.htm
Language: English
Original Language: Latin
Author: Unknown
Translator: Richard F. Littledale 1833-1890
Composer: Lowell Mason 1792-1872 (with apologies...organ music sounds somewhat like a wall of various sounds to me)
Title: A Child Is Born In Bethlehem
Duration: 2:14
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BrizeCrize wrote: December 8th, 2021, 12:15 pm Another carol (or hymn) attached. If nothing else, this little exercise makes you appreciate the efforts and abilities of singers (of all stripes) a little more. (I tend to expect too much perhaps). It's a lot harder than it seems to make your recorded voice sound delightful...or even completely in-tune! Thanks again for the opportunity to try!

Recording link: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_achildisborninbethlehem_bc_128kb.mp3
Text link: http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/c/h/i/l/b/chilborn.htm
Language: English
Original Language: Latin
Translator: Richard F. Littledale 1833-1890
Composer: Lowell Mason 1792-1872 (with apologies...organ music sounds somewhat like a wall of various sounds to me)
Title: A Child Is Born In Bethlehem
Duration: 2:14
I'm glad you are enjoying the opportunity to sing!
A chant-like melody played on an organ -- yes, that could really seem like a "wall of sounds" But you managed it!
This is another PL OK! Thanks, Brize!

Annise, the author of the English version of this carol is not yet in the catalog. Could you add Richard F. Littledale (1833-1890)?
Here is his info - http://www.hymntime.com/tch/bio/l/i/t/t/littledale_rf.htm
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Will do - Anne
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Will an original Christmas song be acceptable?
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dckabir wrote: December 9th, 2021, 12:17 pm https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/cc21_thelittledrummerboy_dc_128kb.mp3
https://www.godtube.com/popular-hymns/the-little-drummer-boy/
Katherine Kennicott Davis (1892-1980)
The Little Drummer Boy/Carol of the Drum
02:00
Thank you, Debanjali, for your interest in participating in the Christmas Carol Collection.
Unfortunately, the carol you have chosen was written in 1941, and is therefore still under copyright, so we can't use it at Librivox.
To be public domain in the US, the carol must have been published in 1925 or earlier. Would you like to choose a different carol instead?
The first post of this thread contains particular instructions for locating a PD carol. The second post in the thread lists a number of suggested sources, including two reliable websites.
I'm sorry you already put in so much work only to be disappointed, but I sincerely hope you will able to find another carol that you would like to record for this collection.
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Thanks, Annise, for adding the missing author to the data base!
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Since this is a small collection this year, I'll put in a contribution -
Could someone please PL it for me?

Link to your recording - https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_shepherdsshakeoff_mk_128kb.mp3
Title - Shepherds Shake Off Your Drowsy Sleep
Author - Traditional Besancon Carol, English Translation by Unknown
Source - https://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymns_and_Carols/shepherds_shake_off_your_drowsy1.htm
Sung in English
Length - 2:14
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commonsparrow3 wrote: December 17th, 2021, 12:08 am Since this is a small collection this year, I'll put in a contribution -
Could someone please PL it for me?
Link to your recording - https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/ccc21_shepherdsshakeoff_mk_128kb.mp3
Title - Shepherds Shake Off Your Drowsy Sleep
Author - Traditional Besancon Carol, English Translation by Unknown
Source - https://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymns_and_Carols/shepherds_shake_off_your_drowsy1.htm
Sung in English
Length - 2:14
Hi Maria
You have only included the first three verses out of five.
Assuming this is deliberate, this is PL OK!
Alan
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