[COMPLETE] The Creeds of Christendom - tg

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TriciaG wrote: April 29th, 2021, 6:10 am Oops! I left that one in there to see if you were really listening. :lol:

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65:27

The edit is around 46:47.
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silverquill wrote: April 28th, 2021, 9:50 pm
InTheDesert wrote: April 27th, 2021, 6:37 pm
Section 11: the intro, were I better at copy-paste, should be "Creed of Eusebius of Caesarea in Palestine A.D. 325". Sorry about that!
I thought that sounded strange. I should have checked first.
At any rate, here it is:
https://librivox.org/uploads/mightyfelix/sevenkeystobaldpate_cargan_1_128kb.mp3
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InTheDesert wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 7:20 pm
ThomasGibby wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 10:27 am Hello,

Here is section 7!

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/creedschristendom_07_various_128kb.mp3

I hope the PL goes well!

-Thomas
PL Notes Section 6:
Great voice, love the reading!

For the intro, we're reading the work titlw rather than the collection title (I now see how that's ambiguous so I'll change it in the first post). Can you say "Creed of Cyprian, of Carthage. A.D. 250" "by Cyprian" (instead of "The Creeds of Christendom by Various"

The volume is a bit too high (93+dB). Are you using Audacity? If so, you can use the Loudness Normalization effect set to -20 (Loudness Normalisation ('perceived loudness', -20 LUFS, the two checkboxes don't matter)) and that will automatically correct the volume.

PL Notes Section 7:

~0:45 "in the Son of God, Christ Jesus" (out of order)

Same as above for intro and volume.

Thanks heaps!
Here is the new and improved version of section 6!

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/creedschristendom_06_various_128kb.mp3

The next one will come out soon!
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ThomasGibby wrote: May 7th, 2021, 10:45 am
Here is the new and improved version of section 6!

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/creedschristendom_06_various_128kb.mp3

The next one will come out soon!
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Here is the new and improved version of section 7!

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/creedschristendom_07_various_128kb.mp3

Hope the PL goes okay!
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ThomasGibby wrote: May 11th, 2021, 10:50 am Here is the new and improved version of section 7!

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/creedschristendom_07_various_128kb.mp3

Hope the PL goes okay!
0:13 (repeat)
1:05 "end of the creed of Novation of Rome" (bolded is missing)
After this point, the recording is unedited.

The volume is still a bit high. Doing the loudness normalization that you used on track 6 will fix this :)
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InTheDesert wrote: May 11th, 2021, 7:03 pm
ThomasGibby wrote: May 11th, 2021, 10:50 am Here is the new and improved version of section 7!

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/creedschristendom_07_various_128kb.mp3

Hope the PL goes okay!
0:13 (repeat)
1:05 "end of the creed of Novation of Rome" (bolded is missing)
After this point, the recording is unedited.

The volume is still a bit high. Doing the loudness normalization that you used on track 6 will fix this :)
Here is the newer and improved-er version

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/creedschristendom_07_various_128kb.mp3

Hope the PL goes well
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Checking in to say it's going to be a while before I record again. My husband took a bit of a tumble on his bicycle and has a broken hip and collarbone. He comes home from hospital today. I'll be his care nurse, and on top of that, I've cleared out the room I used for recording for him to use as work space (so he doesn't have to go down to the basement as he did before).

That's probably more info than is needed. :roll:
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TriciaG wrote: May 18th, 2021, 5:03 am Checking in to say it's going to be a while before I record again. My husband took a bit of a tumble on his bicycle and has a broken hip and collarbone. He comes home from hospital today. I'll be his care nurse, and on top of that, I've cleared out the room I used for recording for him to use as work space (so he doesn't have to go down to the basement as he did before).

That's probably more info than is needed. :roll:
As someone for whom a new baby has turned recording spaces upside down, I understand the predicament. Take you time.

Sorry to hear that all is not well with the family. Question 1 of the Heidelberg Catechism is a comfort :)
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ThomasGibby wrote: May 12th, 2021, 11:06 am
Here is the newer and improved-er version

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/creedschristendom_07_various_128kb.mp3

Hope the PL goes well
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Hello, over the next few weeks, I would be willing to work on the following dozen sections: (yes, it is time for some Church faith-history reading)

18 The Creed Of The Sixth Œcumenical Council, Against The Monothelites A.D. 680
31 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 3-5 A.D.1563
32 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 6 A.D.1563
33 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 7 A.D.1563
34 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 13 A.D.1563
35 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 14 A.D.1563
36 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 21 A.D.1563
37 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 23-25 A.D.1563
41 The Profession of the Tridentine Faith A.D. 1564
76 The Decree of Pope Pius IX on the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary A.D. 1854
77 Papal Syllabus of the Principal Errors of our Time A.D. 1864
80 The Dogmatic Decrees of the Vatican Council concerning the Catholic Faith and the Church of Christ (the Infallibility of the Pope) A.D. 1870

Thank you!

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mscllc wrote: May 20th, 2021, 5:21 pm Hello, over the next few weeks, I would be willing to work on the following dozen sections: (yes, it is time for some Church faith-history reading)

18 The Creed Of The Sixth Œcumenical Council, Against The Monothelites A.D. 680
31 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 3-5 A.D.1563
32 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 6 A.D.1563
33 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 7 A.D.1563
34 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 13 A.D.1563
35 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 14 A.D.1563
36 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 21 A.D.1563
37 The Canons and Dogmatic Decrees of the Council of Trent Session 23-25 A.D.1563
41 The Profession of the Tridentine Faith A.D. 1564
76 The Decree of Pope Pius IX on the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary A.D. 1854
77 Papal Syllabus of the Principal Errors of our Time A.D. 1864
80 The Dogmatic Decrees of the Vatican Council concerning the Catholic Faith and the Church of Christ (the Infallibility of the Pope) A.D. 1870

Thank you!

mscllc
Normally, I would be reticient to assign so many sections to one person but your track record with the summa (which I recently downloaded and will start listening to soon) makes this a safe option! Assigned! Just the English text by the way.

Just for your info, for Trent and the sixth ecumenical council, you don't need to read an author name since I've marked it as 'Various'. Section 41 is Pope Pius IV, 76-77 is Pope Pius IX. For 80, you can choose whether to not read an author or read Pope Pius IX. Please read the dates at the ends of the titles too :)

I'm sure you'll spot some mistakes in what I've done somewhere so you can drop them into the thread and I'll fix them.

Looking forward to PLing them. I've never read all the way through the Council of Trent before.
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Thank you for your confidence, as well as for the additional instructions!

(It is almost 3 in the morning over here in France -- so this will be the fruit of what I decided to do during a sleepless night...)

Like: "In those days he departed to the mountain to pray, and he spent the night in prayer to God" (Lk 6:12), or
"he would withdraw to deserted places to pray" (Lk 5:16)...

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InTheDesert:

Looking more closely at the proposed text for my first assigned section -
18 The Creed Of The Sixth Œcumenical Council, Against The Monothelites A.D. 680 mscllc Link to text p.345 Read from "defining all this we..." to "according to the most wise Athanasius"
- this only lasts 45 seconds, and I believe it to be far too truncated, both from the explicit presuppositions which are its introduction, as well as from the examples which follow in order to insure a correct understanding of what is meant.

I propose starting on the first column of p.345 "Following the five holy Ecumenical Councils and the holy and approved Fathers, with one voice defining that..." (which state the theological presuppositions, necessary for the soundness of the reasoning starting with "defining all this we...") then finishing on p.346 at the bottom of the first column, "Wherefore we confess two wills and two operations, concurring most fitly in him for the salvation of the human race." (where I believe the "wherefore" to mark the true conclusion of the argumentation, whereas what follows is simply the "anathema" against anyone who refuses to accept the previously argued truth...

That would turn the 45 seconds into 4 or 5 minutes.

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mscllc wrote: May 20th, 2021, 7:03 pm InTheDesert:

Looking more closely at the proposed text for my first assigned section -
18 The Creed Of The Sixth Œcumenical Council, Against The Monothelites A.D. 680 mscllc Link to text p.345 Read from "defining all this we..." to "according to the most wise Athanasius"
- this only lasts 45 seconds, and I believe it to be far too truncated, both from the explicit presuppositions which are its introduction, as well as from the examples which follow in order to insure a correct understanding of what is meant.

I propose starting on the first column of p.345 "Following the five holy Ecumenical Councils and the holy and approved Fathers, with one voice defining that..." (which state the theological presuppositions, necessary for the soundness of the reasoning starting with "defining all this we...") then finishing on p.346 at the bottom of the first column, "Wherefore we confess two wills and two operations, concurring most fitly in him for the salvation of the human race." (where I believe the "wherefore" to mark the true conclusion of the argumentation, whereas what follows is simply the "anathema" against anyone who refuses to accept the previously argued truth...

That would turn the 45 seconds into 4 or 5 minutes.

mscllc
The reason I took such a short extract is that I'm following Schaff's arrangement but where he doesn't give an English translation, I've gone and found one. So the marked text is just the English paragraph that he gives only in Greek and Latin. He does give some context as you can see via his notes but I agree that without them, it's truncated. Since we can't read his notes followed by the English translation in one files, if you want to give a fuller version, I'd suggest reading the entire thing (p.344-346).
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