[OPEN][History]World's Story 14: Outline of Universal History - kit

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Post by neecheelok70 » November 24th, 2020, 6:59 am

Here is Section 16. Pronunciations were challenging, but I hope close enough. We shall see.

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_016_ploetz_128kb.mp3

19:51

Jim (Please, no hurry!)

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Post by Kitty » November 24th, 2020, 7:31 am

neecheelok70 wrote:
November 24th, 2020, 6:59 am
Here is Section 16. Pronunciations were challenging, but I hope close enough. We shall see.
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_016_ploetz_128kb.mp3
19:51
I was curious, so started on it right away. An excellent chapter full of info. In fact those myths I know well from childhood, I loved Greek mythology stories :9: but still interesting to hear. So far this project is not boring at all, we didn't have to fear.

Your way of managing the family tree is excellent and very clear to understand. :thumbs: I will make a note in the second post, maybe others will use the same method for the short trees. I still think for the big ones it will be too much to follow, so let's leave those as "images".

I have three small notes for correction still, but on the whole it was very well narrated:

> at 9:49: (p. 45) skipped one line (underlined part) "the Dorians adopted him as their tribal hero. Their kings called themselves his descendants, Heraclidae"

> at 17:33: (p. 47) "and Paris (Alexandros)" – I would add the name Alexandros here because it's a different name than Paris. You correctly inserted "Hecuba (Hecabe)" two lines above

> at 19:14: (p. 47) "and its name Troie and Ilion is certain" – you inserted an extra "is" between "name" and "Troie" which can easily be cut

Thank you, Jim, great start.

My only fear now is that if 5 pages run up to almost 20 minutes, then maybe the longest section with 18 pages may exceed our 74 minute limit :? depending how fast the reader is. Well...we will see. Your next section is already 17 pages long, we can assess the time better than. Luckily we are only at the beginning.

Sonia

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Post by mmcclallen » November 24th, 2020, 8:03 am

Kitty wrote:
November 24th, 2020, 6:58 am
mmcclallen wrote:
November 24th, 2020, 6:51 am
I would love to read Section 46 and 64, if that's possible!
hi Matt, welcome to our forum and this project in particular :)

I see you already passed your test, so I will assign you the two sections and create your reader page in a minute. Do you want the same name for your reader name or something different than your forum name ?

Update: here is your reader page: https://librivox.org/reader/15308 where all your projects will be listed.

Please read the first two posts carefully, as there are details on how to correctly name the files and speak the intro and special instructions for this project. You have chosen quite a challenging project to start with ;) But that should not deter you.

I would suggest though that you first record the smallest section (46), edit it and upload it here and wait for feedback before you record the bigger section. That way, if there are any newbie errors, you will not make them in the second recording ;)

Thanks !

Sonia
Hi Sonia,

I would like my reader name to be Matthew McClallen, do you know how I could get that changed?

I'm sure I'll have some newbie errors, so I'll definitely take your advice of messing up on a small scale first!

Thank you.

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Post by neecheelok70 » November 24th, 2020, 8:12 am

Careless mistakes. Sorry. And I did have Alexandros in there orginally--obviously different from the Greek names. But all's well, you know. Thanks for such a quick response. Here is the corrected:

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_016_ploetz_128kb.mp3

19:57

Jim

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Post by Kitty » November 25th, 2020, 1:04 am

mmcclallen wrote:
November 24th, 2020, 8:03 am
I would like my reader name to be Matthew McClallen, do you know how I could get that changed?
any admin can change it, so I went ahead and put in your new reader name, is it ok like this ? https://librivox.org/reader/15308

Have fun :)

Sonia

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Post by Kitty » November 25th, 2020, 2:42 am

thank you, Jim, you have the honour of giving us the first PL ok section for this project. 8-)

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Post by mmcclallen » November 25th, 2020, 8:20 am

Kitty wrote:
November 25th, 2020, 1:04 am
mmcclallen wrote:
November 24th, 2020, 8:03 am
I would like my reader name to be Matthew McClallen, do you know how I could get that changed?
any admin can change it, so I went ahead and put in your new reader name, is it ok like this ? https://librivox.org/reader/15308

Have fun :)

Sonia
That's perfect, thank you!

Matt

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Post by alanmapstone » November 26th, 2020, 3:56 am

Section 15 - Greeks

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_015_ploetz_128kb.mp3
6;54

In the last bit here I have adapted the text a bit to hopefully make it more understandable to listeners without the text in front of them. If you want it changed please specify.
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Post by Kitty » November 26th, 2020, 6:52 am

alanmapstone wrote:
November 26th, 2020, 3:56 am
Section 15 - Greeks
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_015_ploetz_128kb.mp3

In the last bit here I have adapted the text a bit to hopefully make it more understandable to listeners without the text in front of them. If you want it changed please specify.
thanks Alan, great reading, and interesting info, though I'm not sure whether mythology should have entered this historical timeline :hmm: well it could be headed under culture of course.

Better not adapt the text too much, as we usually don't edit what the author wrote. But the two or three small inserts you made here are not at all disturbing and would pass under "standard PL" anyway. So we can leave it like that.

Just one small edit:

> at 0:29: Could you only add the letter "b" to the title ? I wanted to preserve the subtitles/chapters in that way. I wrote the exact title you have to read in the MW.

I know you had apprehensions to start this project, but I hope you didn't find this chapter too daunting or tedious to record.

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Post by alanmapstone » November 27th, 2020, 4:32 am

Section 15 revised

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_015_ploetz_128kb.mp3
6;55

I think this is historical as it is about the religious practices and beliefs of Greek people in the period under review, rather than the Mythology itself.

Can I take section 22 as well?
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Post by Kitty » November 27th, 2020, 4:37 am

alanmapstone wrote:
November 27th, 2020, 4:32 am
I think this is historical as it is about the religious practices and beliefs of Greek people in the period under review, rather than the Mythology itself.
Can I take section 22 as well?
yes, you can :) glad to see it's growing on you 8-)

Section 15 is PL ok now. Thank you, Alan.

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Post by Kitty » November 28th, 2020, 2:43 am

ANNOUNCEMENT:

I just recorded a few of my sections and noticed that the dates at the beginning of the line sometimes interrupt the flow of the sentence quite awkwardly and that would sound confusing to a listener. In the introduction that I just recorded the author explains that he worked with bold and italics to make it more comprehensible so a flowing text could be provided. But that doesn't help in a spoken text. :?

I think we do not have to stick with the strict order of the number in the sentences in these cases, but rather put it where it best fits to make a complete sentence.

An example to illustrate this:

The book has:
Harold hastened south, but was defeated in the
Oct. 14. Battle of Hastings or Senlac,
and fell on the field.
I read this as: "Harold hastened south, but was defeated in the Battle of Hastings or Senlac, Oct. 14, and fell on the field." (notice the position of the date which I changed)

Another example, book has:
He was succeeded by his brother,
959-975. Eadgar,
the under king of Mercia.
I read it as: "He was succeeded by his brother Eadgar, the under king of Mercia, 959-975."

This makes for a more comprehensible text. I trust you to put the dates in a place where they fit best.

I will include this info in the second post as well, as here it will be lost soon.

Sonia

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Post by neecheelok70 » November 28th, 2020, 12:44 pm

Here is Section 24. And it is a big mess. :shock:

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_024_ploetz_128kb.mp3

63:27

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Post by ColleenMc » November 30th, 2020, 6:18 am

Started with the shortest section to make sure I'm doing it right!

Section 95:

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_095_ploetz_128kb.mp3

7:58

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Post by alanmapstone » November 30th, 2020, 9:30 am

Section 21 - Romans

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/worldstory_volume14_021_ploetz_128kb.mp3
7;27

This section is a straight passage of prose. :D
I have included 1 footnote but not others. :hmm:
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