COMPLETE: Short Nonfiction Collection, Vol. 070 - jo

[Sue Anderson]

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf070_stein_dodge_sa_128kb.mp3
14:09

"Speculations, or Post-Impressionism in the Prose of Gertrude Stein"
by Mabel Dodge
from
Arts and Decoration, Vol. 3, March 1913
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015012320746&view=1up&seq=194

[soupy]

Thanks Sue. The only thing I knew about Gertrude Stein was that she wrote: a rose is a rose is a rose. Now I know more

PLOK

Craig

[Sue Anderson]

Thanks. Craig, for the PL!

[RobMarland]

Hi team! Another one for the collection.

Oscar Wilde and the Aesthetic Movement by Stuart Mason
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf070_wildeaesthetic_mason_rm_128kb.mp3
https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100654041
19:29

[Sue Anderson]

Hi team! Another one for the collection.

Oscar Wilde and the Aesthetic Movement by Stuart Mason
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf070_wildeaesthetic_mason_rm_128kb.mp3
https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100654041
19:29

Hi Rob,

Welcome to the Nonfiction Collection! As our readers are part of the team, welcome also to the "team!" (I like the idea). You read very well.

As an aside, your selection proved most interesting to the BC. As you probably knew, but I didn't, Stuart Mason is a pseudonym for Christopher Sclaten Millard (1872-1927): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Sclater_Millard. According to Wikipedia: Millard "was the author of the first bibliography of the works of Oscar Wilde" and "was instrumental in enabling Wilde's literary executor, Robert Baldwin Ross to establish copyright on behalf of his estate." Millard himself lived an interesting life and ended his days as a dealer of "antiquarian books and rare manuscripts." On ABE used books, (where I finally parsed the Mason pseud.) a first edition of one of Millard's books on Wilde is selling for $394.95: https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/author/oscar-wilde-stuart-mason-pseud-christopher-sclater-millard/

[soupy]

Thanks Rob

Your reading is PLOK

Sue, I can't seem to get the link to take in the MW.

Craig

[Sue Anderson]

Sue, I can't seem to get the link to take in the MW.

Craig

Hi Craig, I think I solved it. I changed the link from the Hathitrust record # (https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100654041) to the actual full view of the text, and now the link seems to work (at least for me).
<a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.c042162265&view=1up&seq=3"target=_blank>Link to text</a>

The message I got on trying the original link which didn't take: Fatal error: Call to undefined method PEAR::RaiseError() in /usr/share/php/PEAR.php on line 231. I have NO idea what that all-meant. It sure doesn't fit my idea of a "fatal" error.

[KevinS]

'Troubled Waters' from Ship ashore! A record of maritime disasters off Montauk and eastern Long Island, 1640-1955 by Jeanette Edwards Rattray, b. 1893

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067606558&view=1up&seq=214

Marked as in the public domain by HathiTrust

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf070_troubledwaters_rattray_ks_128kb.mp3

18:29

[Sue Anderson]

'Troubled Waters' from Ship ashore! A record of maritime disasters off Montauk and eastern Long Island, 1640-1955 by Jeanette Edwards Rattray, b. 1893

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067606558&view=1up&seq=214

Marked as in the public domain by HathiTrust

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf070_troubledwaters_rattray_ks_128kb.mp3

18:29

Hi Kevin, Thanks for this harrowing bit of World War II history!

Given the substantial audience for historical accounts of submarine warfare, I gave your selection a more search friendly title. I think your reading should find a great many listeners.

[KevinS]

Hi Kevin, Thanks for this harrowing bit of World War II history!

Given the substantial audience for historical accounts of submarine warfare, I gave your selection a more search friendly title. I think your reading should find a great many listeners.

I'm very pleased with your title.

[Sue Anderson]

Hi Kevin, Thanks for this harrowing bit of World War II history!

Given the substantial audience for historical accounts of submarine warfare, I gave your selection a more search friendly title. I think your reading should find a great many listeners.

I'm very pleased with your title.

Kevin, My sincere apologies, but I don't think this book is PD. Haithi, I know, says "Public Domain, Google Digitized," but there is a clear copyright date of 1955 by Rattray, along with a Library of Congress number on the book." I was so interested in the account, I didn't stop to think there, for a moment, and then it suddenly hit me "how could WWII history be PD unless it was an official US Gov. source or there was no copyright listed." Unless you have info that I don't know about, I think we cannot accept this selection.

PM to Kevin also on this.

[KevinS]

Hi Kevin, Thanks for this harrowing bit of World War II history!

Given the substantial audience for historical accounts of submarine warfare, I gave your selection a more search friendly title. I think your reading should find a great many listeners.

I'm very pleased with your title.

Kevin, My sincere apologies, but I don't think this book is PD. Haithi, I know, says "Public Domain, Google Digitized," but there is a clear copyright date of 1955 by Rattray, along with a Library of Congress number on the book." I was so interested in the account, I didn't stop to think there, for a moment, and then it suddenly hit me "how could WWII history be PD unless it was an official US Gov. source or there was no copyright listed." Unless you have info that I don't know about, I think we cannot accept this selection.

PM to Kevin also on this.

Here is another example of a work published after 1923 and which is considered PD. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=76626

My understanding is that we trust HathiTrust as we do Project Gutenberg.

Here is the catalog page: https://librivox.org/brown-book-of-the-hitler-terror-by-dudley-leigh-aman-marley/ (This item was released by LibriVox just this year.)

[Sue Anderson]

Kevin,

Determining the public domain status of a book published in the United States after 1923 involves technical issues. The LibriVox Wiki states that we "take a very cautious approach to what is included in the LibriVox catalog." https://wiki.librivox.org/index.php/Copyright_and_Public_Domain

The Wiki then states:

Published works that fall into one of the following categories may be included in the Librivox catalog:

Works published in 1923 or earlier (the copyright has expired in the U.S. on these works),

Works authored by the U.S. Government (these works are not eligible for U.S. copyright protection),

Works which Project Gutenberg has determined are in the public domain (the Project Gutenberg website does include some works which are not public domain in the US, so be sure to check the PD status on the “Bibrec” tab for the work you are interested in).


As the SNF book coordinator, I adhere to this official list of acceptable categories of printed material in determining what to accept for the collection. Since your reading does not fit into any of the above categories, I must decline it's acceptance.

I suggest that you might upload your reading directly to the Internet Archive, where I am sure it will find a receptive listening audience.

Regards,

[knotyouraveragejo]

I looked into this - while normally we do accept HathiTrust as reliable when it comes to determining public domain status, this one looks like the copyright was actually renewed. (record from https://exhibits.stanford.edu/copyrightrenewals/catalog/RE179850)

Ship ashore]
Author:
Jeannette Edwards Rattray.
Renewal ID:RE179850
Original Registration Number:A193751
Date of Renewal:20Oct83
Date of Publication:22Jun55
Claimant:Mary Rattray Kanovitz & David G. Rattray (C)
Class Code:C

Copyright term for Works Registered or First Published in the U.S. between 1924 through 1963 - Published with notice and the copyright was renewed - 95 years after publication date (See: https://copyright.cornell.edu/publicdomain). I have no idea why Google determined this was public domain, but unless they know something we don't, it looks like it may have been in error on their part. I suppose it is possible the copyright holders have relinquished their claim and allowed this to become public domain, but I don't know how one would go about determining that.

Sorry for any confusion all around. As Sue has said, we have to be careful not to publish any recordings of copyright material so we do not risk the chance of being sued. Kevin, if you want to try and contact HathiTrust for further clarification, we can save your recording on the server pending further confirmation of its PD status.

[Sue Anderson]

Thank you, Jo!