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Post by Sue Anderson » August 28th, 2019, 5:02 pm

KevinS wrote:
August 28th, 2019, 3:39 pm
"Pioneer Women Writers," by Donald A. Mackenzie (1873-1936)

From A Book of Great Men and Women, also by Mackenzie

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.96100/page/n174

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf069_womenwriters_mackenzie_ks_128kb.mp3

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Thanks, Kevin! :) This is a good introduction to the women writers of the 17th and 18th centuries! :) MacKensie was certainly a prolific, and if Wikipedia is to be believed, also an eccentric writer: In one of his key works, Myths of Crete and Pre-Hellenic Europe (1917), Mackenzie argued that across Europe during Neolithic times, pre-Indo-European societies were matriarchal and woman-centered (gynocentric)...

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Post by KevinS » August 28th, 2019, 5:11 pm

Matriarchies are not that uncommon.

That sounds like my next submission. Something along those lines.
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Post by ColleenMc » August 29th, 2019, 3:33 pm

Here's a piece I bookmarked for the 14th anniversary collection but decided to do another one for that, so did this one here:

Wooed a "Marjorie Daw" for Fourteen Years, by Anonymous (New York Times, October 2, 1910)

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf069_wooedamarjoriedaw_anonymous_cm_128kb.mp3

20:30

Source: https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1910/10/02/105093968.pdf

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Post by soupy » August 29th, 2019, 3:50 pm

Thanks Kevin.

Some new poets for SPC?

One error noted:

15:16 And there the gem which bears his luckless name – repeated which

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Post by KevinS » August 29th, 2019, 4:05 pm

soupy wrote:
August 29th, 2019, 3:50 pm
Thanks Kevin.

Some new poets for SPC?

One error noted:

15:16 And there the gem which bears his luckless name – repeated which

Craig
For SPC? That's a GREAT idea.

I'll fix the repetition pronto.
E agora, José?

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Post by KevinS » August 29th, 2019, 4:14 pm

E agora, José?

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Post by Sue Anderson » August 29th, 2019, 4:24 pm

ColleenMc wrote:
August 29th, 2019, 3:33 pm
Here's a piece I bookmarked for the 14th anniversary collection but decided to do another one for that, so did this one here:

Wooed a "Marjorie Daw" for Fourteen Years, by Anonymous (New York Times, October 2, 1910)

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf069_wooedamarjoriedaw_anonymous_cm_128kb.mp3

20:30

Source: https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1910/10/02/105093968.pdf

Colleen
Hi Colleen, Thanks for deciding to read this for the SNF collection! :) What a sad tale... scam artists I guess will always be with us. I would think just listening to this tale might help some one in today's world to stop and think before they part with their money to strangers.

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Post by ColleenMc » August 29th, 2019, 5:05 pm

Sue Anderson wrote:
August 29th, 2019, 4:24 pm
ColleenMc wrote:
August 29th, 2019, 3:33 pm
Here's a piece I bookmarked for the 14th anniversary collection but decided to do another one for that, so did this one here:

Wooed a "Marjorie Daw" for Fourteen Years, by Anonymous (New York Times, October 2, 1910)

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf069_wooedamarjoriedaw_anonymous_cm_128kb.mp3

20:30

Source: https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1910/10/02/105093968.pdf

Colleen
Hi Colleen, Thanks for deciding to read this for the SNF collection! :) What a sad tale... scam artists I guess will always be with us. I would think just listening to this tale might help some one in today's world to stop and think before they part with their money to strangers.
It caught my eye because I recently read a long feature article about the Nigerian "romance scammers" who masquerade as American military men, and the havoc they wreak. The technique is exactly the same, including the fake photos and the requests for money, except they are half a world away instead of a few houses down the road.

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Post by soupy » August 29th, 2019, 5:17 pm

Your reading is PLOK Kevin :thumbs:

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Post by soupy » August 30th, 2019, 4:16 am

Thanks Colleen :D

Your reading is PLOK :thumbs:

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Post by mitteldorf » August 31st, 2019, 11:19 am

Just uploaded two nonfiction pieces from Tolstoy's later years. In these he completely throws out the legitimacy of government, saying that governments exist only to create foreign enemies and then pretend to protect us from them. Even if there was some lawlessness and violence in the wake of ending government, things could not possibly be worse for the average Joe than they are now. (I know YOU'RE not your average Jo, but you take Leo's point...)


Tolstoy: On Anarchy, tr. Alymer Maude (9:05)
text: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/leo-tolstoy-on-anarchy
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf069_onanarchy_tolstoy_jjm_128kb.mp3


Tolstoy: Patriotism and Government, tr. Alymer Maude (52:42)
text: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Pamphlets_(Tolstoy)/Patriotism_and_Government
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf069_patriotismandgovernment_tolstoy_jjm_128kb.mp3

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Post by KevinS » August 31st, 2019, 12:57 pm

E agora, José?

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Post by Sue Anderson » August 31st, 2019, 1:55 pm

mitteldorf wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 11:19 am
Just uploaded two nonfiction pieces from Tolstoy's later years. In these he completely throws out the legitimacy of government, saying that governments exist only to create foreign enemies and then pretend to protect us from them. Even if there was some lawlessness and violence in the wake of ending government, things could not possibly be worse for the average Joe than they are now. (I know YOU'RE not your average Jo, but you take Leo's point...)


Tolstoy: On Anarchy, tr. Alymer Maude (9:05)
text: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/leo-tolstoy-on-anarchy
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf069_onanarchy_tolstoy_jjm_128kb.mp3


Tolstoy: Patriotism and Government, tr. Alymer Maude (52:42)
text: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Pamphlets_(Tolstoy)/Patriotism_and_Government
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf069_patriotismandgovernment_tolstoy_jjm_128kb.mp3

Hi Mitteldorf,

Thank you for contributing to volume 069! :) The author, Tolstoy, and his subject matter, Anarchism, should be of interest to many listeners.

Before I can accept your recordings, however, we need to address the question of your sources. Your reading sources need to point directly to public domain (i.e. original) sources. For your first reading, we need a original source for the essay "On Anarchy." You cite the Anarchist Library. But The Anarchist Library is not an original source. The Anarchist Library states, with regard to this essay, only that it was "retrieved on 7 February 2011 from tolstoy and peace.wordpress.com" This website/blog has been taken down from the internet, so I cannot follow through to see where the author of this blog sourced the essay. My only clue is that the Anarchist Library cites 1900 as the published date.

There is a 1900 compilation of excerpts from Tolstoy available on google & archive.org: Pamphlets Translated from the Russian by Leo Tolstoy https://archive.org/details/pamphletstransl00tolsgoog/page/n10, which contains an excerpt from Tolstoy labeled "On Anarchy." This excerpt is labeled "from the Private MS. Diary". It follows the text you read, but pages 26 and 27 of the text on the web are missing so I cannot verify the totality. [Note: the missing pages are acknowledged by Wikisource also.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Pamphlets_(Tolstoy)/Some_Social_Remedies/On_Anarchy]https://archive.org/details/pamphletstransl00tolsgoog/page/n250). ]

So, as things stand now, I cannot accept your first recording until you provide a public domain source exactly matching what you have read or want to read. You could ask the University of Michigan, which supplied the text to Google, to provide you with xerox copies of pages 26 and 27... which should do the trick!

Now, on to your second reading, Patriotism and Government. As mentioned before, the SNF Collection is not fond of Wikisource, which sometimes provides faulty or corrupted copies of its "original documents." However, Wikisource states that its "Patriotism and Goverment" is a direct copy from the above cited Pamphlets Translated from the Russian." Therefore, I am asking Craig to proof your recording from the original source, https://archive.org/details/pamphletstransl00tolsgoog/page/n54, not Wikisource, and we'll hope Wikisource copied correctly. If not, Craig will point that out to you, so you can correct your recording.

If my comments sound arcane, or worse yet, picky, so be it. The SNF Collection and its book coordinator remain committed to the LibriVox standard that the books we read are clearly "from the Public Domain."

Your recordings are most welcome at the Short Nonfiction Collection, once the sources have been verified! :)

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Post by KevinS » August 31st, 2019, 2:25 pm

This should do it for the first submission:

https://books.google.com/books?id=kVBYAAAAMAAJ&dq

The second reading is here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=gd0MAQAAIAAJ&pg

I'll let the reader fish around for them, but the articles are in these free e-books from Google.
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Post by Sue Anderson » August 31st, 2019, 2:53 pm

KevinS wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 2:25 pm
This should do it for the first submission:

https://books.google.com/books?id=kVBYAAAAMAAJ&dq

The second reading is here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=gd0MAQAAIAAJ&pg

I'll let the reader fish around for them, but the articles are in these free e-books from Google.
Thanks for these, Kevin! :) There is a copy of Patriotism and Government in the second book you cite! :) as well as a lot of other interesting stuff... for future SNF reads...

The problem with the book you mention as a possible for "On Anarchy" (the first book you mention: https://books.google.com/books?id=kVBYAAAAMAAJ&dq) is that this is the edition supplied by the Univ. of Michigan Library, and the google scan is missing 2 pages from the essay "On Anarchy " (26 and 27, one double-page scan). You'd think there must be somebody on LibriVox working at or attending the U. of Mich. who could photocopy those pages for Mitteldorf. It's been a solution in the past.

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