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Post by Sue Anderson » August 3rd, 2019, 1:18 pm

lethargilistic wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 12:35 pm
Sue Anderson wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 6:51 am
lethargilistic wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 12:33 am
"Silvertop Associates, Inc. v. Kangaroo Manufacturing, Inc.”
Thomas Hardiman (1965 - ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hardiman
https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/182266p.pdf
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf068_silvertopkangaroo_hardiman_mlo_128kb.mp3 (20:01)

I am certain that I pronounced "pictorial" with and without the "i." It's the same word to me, but I can make it consistent if you insist.
Mike, This is a very interesting contribution. I listened to it this morning. But before I accept it for the Nonfiction Collection, could you please help me out with your sourcing. I can see that it originates from a U.S. government site: https://www.uscourts.gov/. Generally speaking, material originating from the U.S. Government is in the public domain, but to be sure about this case summary I would like to be able reach the court case myself, by accessing it through the U.S. government site.

Could you please tell me the "route" through which you navigated on the web to reach this source. I can see there is a page on the uscourts site called " https://www.pacer.gov/ for accessing electronic files; but I also also see that I would have to sign up for an account to use it. I also see there is a charge for accessing "Pacer" and that there is a disclaimer under the
question "Is All Case Information Available to the Public. " that "some documents may be unavailable to the general public." So, while I think this would be a great addition to our collection, I need your help on this one. Thanks in advance, :)
Hi Sue. PACER is a scam. :P To be honest, I have been following this case since the district court decision and just used the name I knew to find the .gov link through Google when this appellate opinion dropped. You can get there through the main site as well!

1) https://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/
2) Click "Opinions and Oral Arguments" https://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinions-and-oral-arguments
3) Click "Recent Precedential Opinions" https://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinions-and-oral-arguments (The case will only be listed on this page until the end of the month, but there is an internal search that can be used for finding it later.)
4) Click "Silvertop Associates Inc v. Kangaroo Manfacturing Inc" https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/182266p.pdf (lol, they misspelled it)
Mike, Thank you very much for your prompt reply and the step by step! :) I gave your selection a little more lively title ( taken from the introductory paragraph), if that's ok by you.

OPINION OF THE COURT

HARDIMAN, Circuit Judge.
This interlocutory appeal involves the validity of a
copyright in a full-body banana costume. Appellant Kangaroo
Manufacturing Inc. concedes that the banana costume it
manufactures and sells is substantially similar to the banana
costume created and sold by Appellee Rasta Imposta.

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Post by Horner94 » August 3rd, 2019, 1:47 pm

Hello,
I have attempted another recording.
Author: Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus
Title: Letters of Pliny
URL to text: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2811/2811-h/2811-h.htm#link2H_4_0025
Audio recording ready for PLing: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf068_lettersofpliny_secundus_cjph_128kb.mp3 Time: 03:51
Sure there are no copyright restrictions in the UK for this work?
Many thanks,
Chad

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Post by Sue Anderson » August 3rd, 2019, 2:07 pm

Horner94 wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 1:47 pm
Hello,
I have attempted another recording.
Author: Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus
Title: Letters of Pliny
URL to text: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2811/2811-h/2811-h.htm#link2H_4_0025
Audio recording ready for PLing: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf068_lettersofpliny_secundus_cjph_128kb.mp3 Time: 03:51
Sure there are no copyright restrictions in the UK for this work?
Many thanks,
Chad
Hi Chad, Thanks for this letter by Pliny! :) Copyright should be ok.

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Post by david wales » August 3rd, 2019, 2:55 pm

Hi, would like to add this, please:


• Title of the work.
• The Function Of A National Library (1897)
• Author of the work.
• Ainsworth Rand Spofford, 6th Librarian Of Congress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainsworth_Rand_Spofford
• The link to your file you copied from the uploader.
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf068_functionnationallibrary_spofford_dw_128kb.mp3
• A URL link to the source from which you read (etext URL).
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/59821
• Length in minutes.
• 25.04

thanks
Peace, David

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Post by david wales » August 3rd, 2019, 3:04 pm

would also like to add this work, please:


• Title of the work.
• Books In The Wilderness
• Author of the work.
• Frederick Niven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Niven
• The link to your file you copied from the uploader.
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf068_bookswilderness_niven_dw_128kb.mp3
• A URL link to the source from which you read (etext URL).
https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?pid=20180616

• Length in minutes.
• 18.21

thanks
Peace, David

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Post by soupy » August 3rd, 2019, 5:17 pm

Thanks for the Kangaroo court story Mike.

A few errors noted:

6:33 forgot end quote after “an intrinsic utilitarian function that is not merely to portray the appearance of the article or to convey information.

7:05 forgot end quote after “is eligible for copyright if, when identified and imagined apart from the useful article, it would qualify as a pictorial, graphic, or sculptural work either on its own or when fixed in some other tangible medium.

8:09 after The second requirement, which is “ordinarily more difficult to satisfy,” requires “that the separately identified feature has the capacity to exist apart from the utilitarian aspects of the article.” Id. forgot to read this p. 7 (“In other words, the feature must be able to exist as its own pictorial, graphic, or sculptural work as defined in § 101 once it is imagined apart from the useful article.”)

13:51 A judge’s own aesthetic judgments must play no role in copyright analysis. After this forgot to read: See Star Athletica, 137 S. Ct. at 1015. “Our inquiry is limited to how the article and feature[s] are perceived, not how or why they were designed.”

17:05 Courts term this rare occurrence “merger,” forgot quote end quote

17:41 Here, copyrighting Rasta’s banana costume would not effectively monopolize the underlying idea because there are many other ways to make a costume resemble a banana. You read monopolizing

Craig
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Post by soupy » August 3rd, 2019, 5:25 pm

Thanks Chad :thumbs:

That letter was a good choice.

a few errors noted:

2:54 relating to public extortions - you read exhortations

No need to say this recording is in the public domain at the end

Craig
What had been his eye’s delight, his eyes craved to see again and his ingratitude punished him by inducing him to believe it to be more beautiful than it had ever been. Soren Kierkegaard 1843
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Post by Sue Anderson » August 3rd, 2019, 5:40 pm

david wales wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 2:55 pm
Hi, would like to add this, please:

• Title of the work.
• The Function Of A National Library (1897)
• Author of the work.
• Ainsworth Rand Spofford, 6th Librarian Of Congress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainsworth_Rand_Spofford

thanks
david wales wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 3:04 pm
would also like to add this work, please:

• Title of the work.
• Books In The Wilderness
• Author of the work.
• Frederick Niven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Niven

thanks
Thank you, David, for these two selections on the place of books in public and private life! :) As always your steady, clear reading voice draws the listener into the topics you've chosen and settles them down for a good listen! It's always fascinating, at least to me, to find out what an individual thinks of as the "essential books" to keep in their lives, and for this reason I think our listeners will particularly enjoy Frederick Niven's essay.

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Post by david wales » August 4th, 2019, 4:58 am

Hi Sue, Thanks for your good words. I've got another Spofford selection for the next collection on The Art Of Reading. Bet you'll like it, too. :)
Peace, David

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Post by soupy » August 4th, 2019, 7:41 am

Thanks David :D

Both very interesting to listen to. But no Kierkegaard on the voyage?

PLOK :thumbs:

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Post by Sue Anderson » August 5th, 2019, 7:26 am

Horner94 wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 1:47 pm
Hello,
I have attempted another recording.
Author: Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus
Title: Letters of Pliny
URL to text: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2811/2811-h/2811-h.htm#link2H_4_0025
Audio recording ready for PLing: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf068_lettersofpliny_secundus_cjph_128kb.mp3 Time: 03:51
Sure there are no copyright restrictions in the UK for this work?
Many thanks,
Chad
Chad, I just ran your file thru the LibriVox "Checker" program, which checks for file errors; the program notified me that your file is in "stereo," not mono. Could you please fix this when you re-upload. Thank you!

For your convenience, I'm also posting here a copy of Craig's PL.
soupy wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 5:25 pm
Thanks Chad :thumbs:

That letter was a good choice.

a few errors noted:

2:54 relating to public extortions - you read exhortations

No need to say this recording is in the public domain at the end

Craig

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Post by silverquill » August 5th, 2019, 9:33 am

Hi!

Well, here is a piece that I mistakenly recorded for another project.
Would it be appropriate for this collection?
It is a speech by the then newly elected Prime Minister of England, Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman in 1905, and does reflect some interesting turning points in history.


On the Policy of the Liberal Party
Henry Campbell-Bannerman (1836 - 1908)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Campbell-Bannerman

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf068_policy__campbell-bannerman_lcw_128k.mp3

https://archive.org/details/worldsfamousorat05bryaiala/page/226

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Post by Sue Anderson » August 5th, 2019, 10:14 am

silverquill wrote:
August 5th, 2019, 9:33 am
Hi!

Well, here is a piece that I mistakenly recorded for another project.
Would it be appropriate for this collection?
It is a speech by the then newly elected Prime Minister of England, Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman in 1905, and does reflect some interesting turning points in history.


On the Policy of the Liberal Party
Henry Campbell-Bannerman (1836 - 1908)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Campbell-Bannerman

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf068_policy__campbell-bannerman_lcw_128k.mp3

https://archive.org/details/worldsfamousorat05bryaiala/page/226
Hi Silverquill, Sir Campbell-Bannerman's speech is most welcome here! :)

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Post by soupy » August 5th, 2019, 6:56 pm

Thanks for the speech on liberalism in 1905 Silverquill :thumbs:

A ew errors noted:

2:07 That the method of their going would be a masterpiece of tactical skill. Forgot to read the method

3:44 What lesson then are we to draw – you read they

11:43 And by referring the Alabama dispute to arbitration – you read by referring to the Alabama

15:32 Or crying out for lighter taxes and fewer of them? You read higher

16:22 We believe in that principle – you read I

17:12 Down to last spring – you read the last spring

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What had been his eye’s delight, his eyes craved to see again and his ingratitude punished him by inducing him to believe it to be more beautiful than it had ever been. Soren Kierkegaard 1843
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Post by KevinS » August 6th, 2019, 8:15 am

E agora, José?

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