COMPLETE: Short Nonfiction Collection, Vol. 078 - jo

[Sue Anderson]

A few SNF update notes...

Vol. 077 of the SNF, which was just catalogued on October 14th, already has had 25,720 views, according to archive.org. https://archive.org/details/snf077_2010_librivox. Yeah!

For anybody wondering, your contributions, within the volumes of the SNF, appear in the catalog in alphabetical order -- alphabetized by title (not your forum or catalog name). That means, of course, that the order of the selections you see in the Magic Window is not the order you will see in the catalog.

Anybody who, as I did, grew up in the era of school desks bolted to the floor in rigid rows, and whose last name begins with "A" will appreciate this organizational choice. I either ended up in the front left corner of the room, facing the teacher, or in the back end of a row.

[ColleenMc]

Thank you! Just checking - I don't see it in the MW?

Colleen

Thanks!

[Sue Anderson]

The Digger's Manifesto
by Gerrard Winstanley 1609-1676
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrard_Winstanley

Craig

Thanks, Craig, PL OK!

This manifesto was quite interesting to me. Our town has farm land set aside for "community gardens" where for a nominal price, you can work a small plot of land, planting it to crops of your choice. This spring, for the first time, I tried out this concept, renting (for just $25!) a 15 x 30 ft. plot and planting tomatoes, squash, etc. Food-wise, my garden was an overwhelming success, but also important to me were the good people I met, hoe in hand!

[soupy]

Thanks Sue -

We have the same concept over here in the Fox Valley. Many Hmong people love to garden in a little patch of land and bring the crops home or to Farmer's Markets.

Craig

[InTheDesert]

The Arguments of Celsus Against the Christians
Celsus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celsus)
47:28
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf078_againsthechristians_celsus_itd_128kb.mp3
I read from this text (1830): https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=VRxeAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
The text is also here (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/37696) but I chose not to use it because PG has messed up the formatting of the body text and the footnotes by moving the footnotes into the body at some points.

The text is a mixture of quotation and paraphrase so I used the words "quote" and "end quote" to distinguish them.

[Sue Anderson]

The Arguments of Celsus Against the Christians
Celsus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celsus)
47:28
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf078_againsthechristians_celsus_itd_128kb.mp3
I read from this text (1830): https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=VRxeAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
The text is also here (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/37696) but I chose not to use it because PG has messed up the formatting of the body text and the footnotes by moving the footnotes into the body at some points.

The text is a mixture of quotation and paraphrase so I used the words "quote" and "end quote" to distinguish them.

Thank you, InTheDesert, for "The Arguments of Celsus." Your choice of source is fine with me. Although Gutenberg is easier to read, I also prefer to go back to the original of a book, on archive.org., google, or hathi, if available. Craig will PL. I can assure you he has an "eagle ear" for quotes and unquotes.

[soupy]

Thanks for Celsus' arguments against the Christians - and the Jews - InTheDesert

well read - a few errors noted

Firstly, it seems you read quote and then end quote faithfully until about 15 minutes - then you decided that saying quote and end quote for each short paragraph was redundant so you kept to quote and then read all the paragraphs that had quotes around them and then said endquote - this seemed more reasonable. You can leave it as is or get rid of some of the end quotes at the beginning.

11:55 "Why too did not Jesus, if not before, yet now at least, [i. e. when he was brought before Pilate,] exhibit some divine indication respecting himself; -- forgot to say not

29:49 the Jews being concealed in a corner of Palestine, men perfectly in-erudite, and who never had previously heard the same things celebrated by Hesiod - you said erudite -

37:37 If, therefore, you are unable to understand these assertions, be silent, and conceal your ignorance, -- you said being silent

46:20 to which being bound, they are unable to effect any thing superior to the sanction of the body -- you said senation of the body

47:06 for piety when it passes through all things becomes more perfect." Repeated phrase

Craig

[InTheDesert]

Thanks for Celsus' arguments against the Christians - and the Jews - InTheDesert

well read - a few errors noted

Firstly, it seems you read quote and then end quote faithfully until about 15 minutes - then you decided that saying quote and end quote for each short paragraph was redundant so you kept to quote and then read all the paragraphs that had quotes around them and then said endquote - this seemed more reasonable. You can leave it as is or get rid of some of the end quotes at the beginning.

11:55 "Why too did not Jesus, if not before, yet now at least, [i. e. when he was brought before Pilate,] exhibit some divine indication respecting himself; -- forgot to say not

29:49 the Jews being concealed in a corner of Palestine, men perfectly in-erudite, and who never had previously heard the same things celebrated by Hesiod - you said erudite -

37:37 If, therefore, you are unable to understand these assertions, be silent, and conceal your ignorance, -- you said being silent

46:20 to which being bound, they are unable to effect any thing superior to the sanction of the body -- you said senation of the body

47:06 for piety when it passes through all things becomes more perfect." Repeated phrase

Craig

Great PLing - very easy to fix.

I've uploaded the rectified version. Unfortunately spot check is not easy because all the timings have changed because I dropped the inconsistent quotations in the first 15 minutes (well spotted - I now realise that it was only half way through that I realised that the lack of quotation mark at the end meant it was a continuous quotation).

[soupy]

Nice corrections Inthedesert

PLOK

Craig

Origen seems to have made a reply to Celsus in his writings.

https://archive.org/details/AnteNiceneChristianLibraryV23/page/n47/mode/2up

Craig

[InTheDesert]

Nice corrections Inthedesert

PLOK

Craig

Origen seems to have made a reply to Celsus in his writings.

https://archive.org/details/AnteNiceneChristianLibraryV23/page/n47/mode/2up

Craig

He did indeed! In fact, because Celsus' writing doesn't survive in its original form, the thing I read was everything that can be extracted from Origen's response.

[TriciaG]

This is an old file (from 2008) that never got even a proper database entry. It's a rogue file that once was lost, but now is found. I fixed its technical issues and did a very quick (as in, at 125% speed) listen through it, and it sounded both OK enough and interesting enough to add to this collection.

Chapter 1 of "Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry"
Author: Albert Pike
Text: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/19447
Reader: theaconda
Length: 50:21
Link:

I was thinking of putting it in the Insomnia Collection due to its length, but the reader might return after 12 years and find that insulting. If you prefer it there, though, I'll shuffle it over there.

[Sue Anderson]

Hi Tricia, Sounds interesting; please upload the file here and we'll take a listen!

[TriciaG]

Yeah - sorry. I hit SUBMIT too early. I was hoping no one would notice and I could just sneak in the link when it was done uploading.

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf078_freemasonry1_pike_as_128kb.mp3

[Sue Anderson]

You're forgiven!

[soupy]

Thanks Andrew

Those Masons and their rites.

Well read and PLOK

Craig