COMPLETE The Enchiridion by Epictetus - rap

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johnpederson
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Post by johnpederson » June 9th, 2020, 3:34 pm

The Enchiridion by Epictetus (c. 55 - c. 135). Translated by Percy Matheson (1859 - 1946)

This project is complete and all audio files can be found in the catalogue: https://librivox.org/the-enchiridion-by-epictetus/

The Enchiridion (also translated as “Handbook” or “Manual”) of Epictetus is a short collection of Stoic precepts compiled by Arrian, a student of Epictetus. Epictetus (c. 50 – 135 AD) was a Greek philosopher and a champion of Stoicism, a philosophy dedicated to tranquility of the mind and soul via practical, actionable advice. Popular in the ancient and medieval world, it has even found favor in the contemporary military; fighter pilot James Stockdale attributed his survival of over seven years as a prisoner of war to the way of thinking contained in this short work. (summary written by John Pederson)
  • Text source (only read from this text!): https://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/dep/dep102.htm
  • Type of proof-listening required (Note: please read the PL FAQ): standard



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    Magic Window:



    BC Admin ===========================================
    This paragraph is temporary and will be replaced by the MC with the list of sections and reader (Magic Window) once this project is in the admin system.
    • Project Code: fowuqlKA



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    • The reader will record the following at the beginning and end of each file:
      No more than 0.5 to 1 second of silence at the beginning of the recording!
      START of recording (Intro):
      • "Chapters ## through ## of The Enchiridion. This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information, or to volunteer, please visit: librivox DOT org"
      • If you wish, say:
        "Recording by [your name], [city, your blog, podcast, web address]"
      • Say:
        "The Enchiridion by Epictetus. Translated by Percy Matheson"


      For the second and all subsequent sections, you may optionally use the shortened form of this intro disclaimer:
      • "Chapters ## through ## of The Enchiridion by Epictetus. Translated by Percy Matheson. This LibriVox recording is in the Public Domain."
      • If you wish, say:
        "Recording by [your name], [city, your blog, podcast, web address]"
      • Only if applicable, say:
        "[Chapter title]"
      END of recording:
      • At the end of the section, say:
        "End of Section #"
      • If you wish, say:
        "Recording by [your name], [city, your blog, podcast, web address]"
      • At the end of the book, say (in addition):
        "End of The Enchiridion by Epictetus. Translated by Percy Matheson "

      There should be ~5 seconds silence at the end of the recording.
    • Example filename enchiridion_##_epictetus_128kb.mp3 (all lower-case) where ## is the section number (e.g. enchiridion_01_epictetus_128kb.mp3)
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      Please post below
Last edited by johnpederson on June 16th, 2020, 8:40 pm, edited 2 times in total.

cadastra
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Post by cadastra » June 9th, 2020, 4:10 pm

Looks interesting. I'd love to DPL if you'll have me.

johnpederson
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Post by johnpederson » June 9th, 2020, 8:08 pm

Awesome – thank you cadastra! It's a good translation – and a good work.

I'll correct the erroneous recording instructions given in the original post, since I entered the title incorrectly into the form. The header should be something like:
"Chapter [number] of The Enchiridion. This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information, or to volunteer, please visit: librivox DOT org. Recording by John Pederson. The Enchiridion, by Epictetus. Translated by Percy Matheson."

I actually had two questions for those more experienced reading this:

1) Should I say (1859-1946) after the translator's name? I feel like it would be more appropriate to leave it out, or say "Translated by Percy Matheson in 1916." instead.

2) There are 53 "chapters" in the Enchiridion, all of which can be read in under an hour. It seems to me like a single large recording or 53 very short recordings would be equally unwieldy to listen to – would it be alright to organize them arbitrarily into groups of about 10 or so? Each one would last about ten minutes.

Forgive me if this isn't the right place to ask such questions – I'm rather new here, and this is my first solo reading. Thanks!

Best regards,
John P.

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Post by Rapunzelina » June 10th, 2020, 5:23 am

Let me MC this project, John!

I'll go set it up, and then answer your questions.

There is another version of this in the catalogue (it's another translation I think), but you are still interested in doing this, yes?

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Post by Rapunzelina » June 10th, 2020, 5:44 am

Magic Window is in place.
As a soloist, you are the book coordinator, responsible for updating the Magic Window. Here's a guide: https://wiki.librivox.org/index.php?title=Soloists:_How_to_update_the_Magic_Window

Start from "Accessing the System – First Time Login" to create a password for the system (Workflow); the workflow login is something separate from your forum login.

I've cleared up the intro in the first post, also the filename. You can skip the translator dates. You can combine the "chapters" :thumbs:
I've suggested the word "Section" in the intro, but it can be anything you want that makes sense. It could be "Chapter", it could be "Part", etc

And, yes, you can ask questions here. :D

Also, please write a summary for the project in your own words rather than using wikipedia. Thanks!

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Post by johnpederson » June 11th, 2020, 5:34 pm

Hi Rapunzelina,

Thanks so much! I accept your MC offer. I've named the chapter sections and will get cracking on them within the week.

And yes, I'm still interested in reading this translation – I really enjoy the ability of different translations to bring out the different nuances of a work, and I think that the wording of the Matheson translation differs significantly enough from the Elizabeth Carter one to be worthwhile.

Thanks for correcting the post! As far as headings, I think I'd like to say:
"Chapters 1 through 10 of The Enchiridion by Epictetus. Translated by Percy Matheson. This LibriVox recording is in the Public Domain."
and
"End of Chapters 1 through 10. Recorded by John Pederson."
Also, since I'm including multiple chapters in the same file, when I'm transitioning between chapters, I'm hoping it's alright to say:
"...the answer that it is nothing to you. *brief pause* Chapter 2. Remember that the will to get..."

And apologies for the Wikipedia summary – I've seen that done on some other Librivox works so I got confused! I will replace it with my own presently.

Best regards,
John P.

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Post by Rapunzelina » June 11th, 2020, 5:51 pm

Chapters ## through ## sounds fine, but please remember to use the full disclaimer in the first section, then you can use the shortened one in the rest.

We try to avoid Wikipedia summaries (although sometimes they slip through) for two reasons; one, because wiki articles are not pd (they are cc, creative commons) and two, because books that have wiki articles have it linked on their catalogue page anyway.

Have fun recording! I'll move us to the Going Solo forum.

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Post by johnpederson » June 16th, 2020, 8:44 pm

Alright – I made it through all the sections! Please let me know of any mistakes you find.

Rapunzelina, as this is my first solo, do you know what the next step on my agenda should be? Thanks!

– John P.

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Post by Rapunzelina » June 17th, 2020, 12:47 am

johnpederson wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 8:44 pm
Alright – I made it through all the sections! Please let me know of any mistakes you find.

Rapunzelina, as this is my first solo, do you know what the next step on my agenda should be? Thanks!

– John P.
Well done! Now we wait for the proof listening. If nothing needs fixing, I'll start the cataloguing process and you don't need to do anything else in this project. Except if you also want to do a cd cover for it? When a project is catalogued, it moves to the "Completed" state, and then some of the more artistic members create cd covers for the completed projects. But sometimes the book coordinators and soloists choose to do their own covers for their projects. Here is the cd cover making thread, for more information viewtopic.php?f=22&t=28785
So if you're interested in doing that, you can preclaim the cover on that thread, or I could preclaim it for you if you tell me to.

Otherwise, you're ready for your next project and/or recording for group projects :D

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Post by johnpederson » June 17th, 2020, 12:50 pm

Awesome! I think I'll try my hand at designing a cover – would you be willing to preclaim it for me? Not sure what to say there – thanks!
– John P.

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Post by cadastra » June 17th, 2020, 4:04 pm

Hi, John:

Wow, lovely reading, especially for your first solo! You sound like a professional. I am so glad I volunteered to DPL this book; it is an interesting read. I have a couple of PL notes for you...

First of all, each of the five sections contains the expanded disclaimer at the beginning of the recording ("This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information, or to volunteer, please visit: librivox DOT org") instead of the shortened disclaimer ("This LibriVox recording is in the Public Domain"). As stated in the first post, for solo projects, the reader must include the expanded disclaimer in the first section. However, in subsequent sections, the reader may optionally use the shortened disclaimer. It is your decision whether or not you wish to change the disclaimer in Sections 2-5.

Also, the wrong outro is used in all sections. The outro should be "end of chapters ## through ##," not "end of chapters ## through ## of The Enchiridion by Epictetus." The outro, "End of The Enchiridion by Epictetus" should be included at the end of Section 5 alone.

Finally, in Section 3, there is a repeat at 04:44 ("you will be unjust then and . . . and insatiable").

All small errors and easy to fix. Let me know when the edited files are uploaded and I will spot PL them. Thanks again for the lovely afternoon of listening!

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Post by Rapunzelina » June 17th, 2020, 4:44 pm

I have just pre-claimed the cd cover in your name. I think you have about two weeks at your disposal to create the cd cover, but the sooner the better :D And remember that the images used need to be in the public domain as well. Follow the instructions in the thread I linked to, and please ask if something is unclear.

I read through the pl notes. Using the full disclaimer in all sections is fine. The outros also sound fine, as long as the listener understands that this is the end of the section, and there is consistency. I'm saying this because I'm a fan of "less is more" :mrgreen: the less editing the better.

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Post by cadastra » June 17th, 2020, 5:01 pm

Thanks for the clarification, Rapunzelina!

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Post by Rapunzelina » June 18th, 2020, 10:53 am

I just noticed that the Magic Window is set to "Ready for Spot-PL". Does that mean you have uploaded updated files, John?
If so, please also post in the thread whenever you upload files, to notify the DPL. Did you address all the PL notes, or which edits did you make? I'm asking so that the spot-check is easier.
Cheers!

Exciting to have your first solo complete, isn't it!!! One step from the catalogue now! :D

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Post by johnpederson » June 18th, 2020, 3:33 pm

Yes – apologies, I corrected the audio files (easy enough, since the edits were subtractive), uploaded them, and decided to work on the CD cover so I could post both in the same reply. Of course, doing things for the first time always takes longer, hence the delay – but here's the post!

I left the longer introduction to all the files, but edited all the outros appropriately and fixed the "and" repetition. The files are now ready for spot PL.

I also made the cover, thumbnails, and jewel CD case jacket (https://librivox.org/uploads/covers/enchiridion_2006.zip), but couldn't find this project (or your post) in the cover-making thread – I must be looking in the wrong place. It should be a post here (viewtopic.php?f=22&t=28785&hilit=rapunzelina&start=12330), right?

It is exciting! It's been a very nice experience – thanks for helping make it so!

– John P.

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