COMPLETE: [RUSSIAN] Silhouettes of Russian Writers, Issue 1 - dii

chulsky · Post by **chulsky** » December 14th, 2019, 9:07 am

Kitty wrote: ↑December 6th, 2019, 6:02 am ... I was intrigued and checked up on this famous comedy "Горе от ума". I found an English wiki-page and read up a bit on it. Sounds funny. If we had the text in English, we would probably stage it for LV.

Oh, there is a link to a PD translation, https://books.google.com/books?id=pFcEAAAAYAAJ, not sure how good it is. The title "Gore ot Ouma" is, I think, ridiculous

> at 14:19: (p. 15): "кому в Москве" – I may be mistaken but I hear "кому у в Москве" (twice 'у'-sound) I think it's not significant, maybe only a bit of a stumble. I let you decide

Yes, in Russian, maybe in all Slavic languages, there is no semantic difference between long and short vowels. I often stretch vowels and even consonants for expressive effects, here it undertones the sarcastic question.
With your permission, I mark the section PL OK, but don't get me wrong, I love these linguistic discussions and welcome your feedback or questions about meaning, grammar, or pronunciation.

You will notice, there are some blind spots in the original, where I had to wing the text. I am 99% sure of my guesses, and LV allows for marginal errors, I think. Just giving you a heads-up.
strange...I did not notice any blind spots did I read from the same source ? I was able to see all the letters I think.

I just posted the next section, you would easily find the blind spots there. I apologize for jumping ahead of myself.

Also, the language of Ryleyev is more old-fashioned than the others, I am myself not always sure I said everything right.

Post by **Kitty** » December 16th, 2019, 6:54 am

chulsky wrote:Oh, there is a link to a PD translation, https://books.google.com/books?id=pFcEAAAAYAAJ, not sure how good it is. The title "Gore ot Ouma" is, I think, ridiculous

indeed, why didn't they simply translate the title as well ? This doesn't make any sense for the English-speaking audience.

I'll check it out, thanks

lots of characters though.

With your permission, I mark the section PL OK

sure go ahead, if you think there is not mistake, I'm fine with it. You're the specialist here

I just posted the next section, you would easily find the blind spots there. I apologize for jumping ahead of myself.

ah yes, now I see. Well I am not good enough to assess whether the words you inserted were correct, but I trust you judgement on that. The section can be marked PL ok.

I love the poetry recitals especially

Hopefully more of those.

Thanks, and on to the next

Sonia

chulsky · Post by **chulsky** » December 17th, 2019, 6:41 pm

Posted: Sec.5,6,7 (Пушкин). There will be poetry galore

https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_05_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [30:26]
https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_06_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [22:34]
https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_07_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [27:15]

No rush, the next sections -- for the next year.

Post by **Kitty** » December 18th, 2019, 7:52 am

you have been busy. Well I couldn't listen to all of them, but I listened to the first part (section 5). Again, flawlessly narrated and I love the poetry.

There are two small notes to correct though, this time:

> the volume is exceeding our accepted limit of 92 dB, maybe decreasing with -2 dB would be more agreeable to the ear

> at 0:12: you forgot part of the disclaimer: "Эта запись проекта ЛибриВокс находится в общественном достоянии."

(Reminder to myself: the next section continues middle of page 35: Совѣсть возстановляетъ для поэта нарушенную цѣльность мірового добра.)

will do the rest tomorrow

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » December 19th, 2019, 1:30 am

section 6 is PL ok. This section seems to be more about Salieri and Mozart's relationship than about Pushkin

I loved those two poems you delivered with so much emphasis and pathos in the middle of the section.

Gave me the shivers, the voice you were doing there. (in a good way)

Thanks

(reminder for myself: next section will continue on page 41: "Пушкинъ воплотилъ въ своемъ поэтическомъ словѣ міровую гармонію")

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » December 19th, 2019, 3:57 am

"Какое счастье!"

what a wonderful ending for this section on Pushkin.

another great reading, Mark

I only found a very minor detail:

> at 25:25: (p. 49) "которые И. С. Аксаковъ назвалъ благодѣяніемъ" – you forgot to say the initials. "И. С.". May be optional, but I wanted to mention it. Was there a reason why you left them out ?

The rest is word perfect as far as I can judge. Great reading. It's a pleasure to listen to you.

Thank you

Sonia

chulsky · Post by **chulsky** » December 26th, 2019, 5:39 pm

Kitty wrote: ↑December 18th, 2019, 7:52 am There are two small notes to correct ... (sec.5):
> the volume is exceeding our accepted limit of 92 dB, maybe decreasing with -2 dB would be more agreeable to the ear

sorry, forgot to compress

> at 0:12: you forgot part of the disclaimer: "Эта запись проекта ЛибриВокс находится в общественном достоянии."

guilty as charged

Sec.7:

at 25:25: (p. 49) "которые И. С. Аксаковъ назвалъ благодѣяніемъ" – you forgot to say the initials. "И. С.".

Indeed, I meant to look up the full name (Иван Сергеевич) and say it, but forgot.

Using initials in oral speech is awkward and sounds formal, dissonant to the tone of the book.
Thank you, Sonia, for the outstanding PL

Ready for spot PL:
https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_05_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [30:31]
https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_07_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [27:15]

Post by **Kitty** » December 27th, 2019, 2:42 am

chulsky wrote: ↑December 26th, 2019, 5:39 pmIndeed, I meant to look up the full name (Иван Сергеевич) and say it, but forgot.
Using initials in oral speech is awkward and sounds formal, dissonant to the tone of the book.

in English this is quite common usage. But yes, it sounds perfect now.

Excellent patches and both parts PL ok.

Have a good end of year celebration !

Sonia

chulsky · Post by **chulsky** » December 28th, 2019, 6:41 pm

Uploaded Gogol:
Sec.8: https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_08_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [26:44]
Sec.9: https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_09_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [21:31]
Sec.10: https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_10_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [32:30]

Happy New Year, Sonia and Diana!

Post by **Kitty** » December 29th, 2019, 6:17 am

ok you have been busy again. I may not be able to PL everything today, but I started with section 8 and I found some small differences, I let you decided whether they are worth correcting. The title needs correcting though I think:

> at 0:10: you forgot to say "Часть первая" after the title "Гоголь". In the Pushkin chapter you said it that way
> at 9:28: (p. 52) two missing words in the middle here "порабощенный вещью, какъ такою, уподобившійся ей" - I let you decide whether they are important to complete the sentence
> at 12:53: (p. 53) "какъ это онъ сдѣлалъ" - you said "какъ онъ это сдѣлалъ" - I guess it's not much of a difference but I wanted to mention it anyway

If I don't hear from you before the New Year, I hope you have a smooth transition

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » December 29th, 2019, 8:43 am

and section 9 is perfectly PL ok.

I loved the expressive reading about Satan and Christ. (I think that's what it was about at least).

thank you

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » December 29th, 2019, 12:43 pm

and I managed section 10 as well

also perfectly PL ok. I have never read Taras Bulba, is it recommendable ? I always thought it was only about war and the rough life in the steppes, a sort of story only boys would enjoy

. But I don't really know what it is about.

Sonia

chulsky · Post by **chulsky** » January 4th, 2020, 5:32 pm

Happy New Year, Sonia and Diana!

Thank you, Sonia, for the careful PL. I appreciate you following the book, and I fixed everything you noted

Sometimes my brain just anticipates what should follow

Posted sec.8 https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_08_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [26:46]
Sec.11 https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_11_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [29:55]
Sec.12 https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_12_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [30:04]

Taras Bulba is not my favorite, I did not reread it since the middle school. To my taste, the best in Gogol are Dead Souls [Мертвые души], Overcoat [Шинель], and, of course, Inspector [Ревизор]. Almost 200 years old, Gogol's texts might be difficult even for native speakers though

Post by **Kitty** » January 5th, 2020, 6:42 am

chulsky wrote: ↑January 4th, 2020, 5:32 pm Thank you, Sonia, for the careful PL. I appreciate you following the book, and I fixed everything you noted
Sometimes my brain just anticipates what should follow
Posted sec.8 https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_08_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [26:46]

haha yes, that happens to me sometimes too

but perfectly corrected now and PL ok.

I will probably only get to the next two sections tomorrow.

Taras Bulba is not my favorite, I did not reread it since the middle school. To my taste, the best in Gogol are Dead Souls [Мертвые души], Overcoat [Шинель], and, of course, Inspector [Ревизор]. Almost 200 years old, Gogol's texts might be difficult even for native speakers though

dead souls sounds interesting

and now I wasn't planning on reading the original, I am really not good enough for that yet. But maybe in translation.

Thank you, and happy new year !!!

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » January 6th, 2020, 7:06 am

chulsky wrote: ↑January 4th, 2020, 5:32 pmSec.11 https://librivox.org/uploads/dii/silhouettes_11_aykhenvald_128kb.mp3 [29:55]

ah lots of poetry again

I love listening to these recitations.

I found a small repetition here which is unnecessary:

> at 27:01: (p. 80 top) repetition of part of the sentence: "Если бъ меня спросили,— говоритъ Печоринъ въ «Княгинѣ Литовской»,— чего я хочу:" – you repeat "Если бъ меня спросили" once again before "чего я хочу" – can be cut out here

I also noticed that there is has been a shift in grammar along the decades. Here I often saw written "ея", which nowadays is "её". I love such linguistic differences.

Will probably listen to the next chapter tomorrow. (continues on page 80, bottom)

Sonia