[COMPLETE] Multilingual Christmas Carol Collection 2018 - tg

RomanosMusic · Post by **RomanosMusic** » December 16th, 2018, 7:22 am

Hi Maria

Didn't think I'd make the deadline PHEW! Here's my contribution
See Amid the Winter Snow by Sir John Goss - (Original melody and arrangement by me)
Sir John Goss 27 December 1800 -10 May 1880

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/ccc18_seeamidthewintersnow_arl_128kb.mp3
Length 4:01
English
from
http://hdl.handle.net/2027/pst.000067569229

Regards
Romano

Post by **TriciaG** » December 16th, 2018, 7:31 am

I first found this carol in a different book, with only the words and no tune. When I hunted for a version with tune, I found that odd chorus on the next page. My original source had included only the five verses, and no chorus, so I felt that the chorus was dispensable. Especially when I attempted to sing it, and discovered that it doesn't match the verses at all. (Verses are in a minor key, 4/4 time, chorus is in a major key, 6/8 time, and words seem to be from some other carol entirely!) Anyway, yes, I deliberately decided to pretend I hadn't seen that chorus and ignore it.

I think your reasoning is sound, and I'm quite happy with your decision.

alanmapstone · Post by **alanmapstone** » December 16th, 2018, 9:59 am

The Cherry Tree

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/ccc18_thecherrytree_am_128kb.mp3

The Cherry Tree (first version)
Traditional folk carol from the Cecil Sharp collection
https://archive.org/details/englishfolkcarol00shar
(Tune is my own improvisation on the tune in this collection)
English
time 2:40

commonsparrow3 · Post by **commonsparrow3** » December 16th, 2018, 6:46 pm

RomanosMusic wrote: ↑December 16th, 2018, 7:22 am Hi Maria

Didn't think I'd make the deadline PHEW! Here's my contribution
See Amid the Winter Snow by Sir John Goss - (Original melody and arrangement by me)
Sir John Goss 27 December 1800 -10 May 1880

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/ccc18_seeamidthewintersnow_arl_128kb.mp3
Length 4:01
English
from
http://hdl.handle.net/2027/pst.000067569229

Regards
Romano

Thank you, Romano! I'm so glad you came along in time to be part of this year's collection! You chose a lovely carol, and your original music is heavenly! This is PL OK!

Tricia, Sir John Goss doesn't appear in the author drop-down menu. Could you work your magic and cause him to appear?

commonsparrow3 · Post by **commonsparrow3** » December 16th, 2018, 6:52 pm

alanmapstone wrote: ↑December 16th, 2018, 9:59 am The Cherry Tree

https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/ccc18_thecherrytree_am_128kb.mp3

The Cherry Tree (first version)
Traditional folk carol from the Cecil Sharp collection
https://archive.org/details/englishfolkcarol00shar
(Tune is my own improvisation on the tune in this collection)
English
time 2:40

Oh, excellent choice, Alan! This is one of the all-time classic folk-carols, yet I don't think it has ever appeared in a LibriVox Christmas Carol collection until now! Thank you! This is PL OK!

commonsparrow3 · Post by **commonsparrow3** » December 16th, 2018, 7:02 pm

TriciaG wrote: ↑December 16th, 2018, 7:31 am I think your reasoning is sound, and I'm quite happy with your decision.

Thanks, Tricia! That eases my conscience!

I'm starting to compile the final summary for the catalog now, but will wait until tomorrow to post it, so I can add Twinkle's "Silent Night" chorus, as well as any other last-minute contributions. Hopefully this project will be wrapped up by this time tomorrow evening, and ready for your cataloging wizardry.

I do have one question. "Silent Night" is going to have a LOT of singers. I have had duets in the MW in the past, where both names appear in the catalog record. But I've never done a section with a larger number of contributors. I have noticed when I look at such records, the entry in the catalog simply says "Group", and is not clickable. But when searched by the reader's name, that section will show up among their projects. So I assume their name must have been added to the MW. How do I add all the singers' names, and yet make it just show as "Group"? Is there something I need to do? Or is is something you will do at your end? Or does it just happen automatically if there are more than two people in a section?

Post by **TriciaG** » December 16th, 2018, 7:09 pm

It happens automatically. Just add all the singers, and it'll show up as "group" as you said.

I'll work on that adding that author tomorrow...

WiltedScribe · Post by **WiltedScribe** » December 16th, 2018, 7:22 pm

I have two more for the collection:

"Coventry Carol" by Robert Croo (?-?); trad. 15th century music
Language: English
Source: http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/lullay,-lulla-thou-little-tiny-child--coventry-carol--orginal---walford-davies---mather.php
Link: https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/ccc18_coventrycarol_tp_128kb.mp3
Duration: 2:30

"In the Bleak Midwinter" by Christina Rossetti (1830-1894); music by Gustav Holst (1874-1934)
Language: English
Source: http://christmascarolmusic.org/Lead_Sheets/InTheBleak.html
Link: https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/ccc18_inthebleakmidwinter_tp_128kb.mp3
Duration: 3:07

commonsparrow3 · Post by **commonsparrow3** » December 16th, 2018, 8:39 pm

WiltedScribe wrote: ↑December 16th, 2018, 7:22 pm I have two more for the collection:

"Coventry Carol" by Robert Croo (?-?); trad. 15th century music
Language: English
Source: http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/lullay,-lulla-thou-little-tiny-child--coventry-carol--orginal---walford-davies---mather.php
Link: https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/ccc18_coventrycarol_tp_128kb.mp3
Duration: 2:30

"In the Bleak Midwinter" by Christina Rossetti (1830-1894); music by Gustav Holst (1874-1934)
Language: English
Source: http://christmascarolmusic.org/Lead_Sheets/InTheBleak.html
Link: https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/ccc18_inthebleakmidwinter_tp_128kb.mp3
Duration: 3:07

Tomas Peter, Thank you for these two carols! Both are beloved favorites, and both are beautifully sung!

The sources you linked to both include copyright notices for the websites themselves, which makes me leery of using them at LV. Both of these carols are definitely in the public domain, so it wasn't difficult to find them in PD books printed before 1922.

Here is a source for "Coventry Carol" that is acceptable:
from "Christmas Carols New and Old" (1870) edited by John Stainer and Henry Bramley
https://archive.org/details/christ00bram/page/148

And here is a link to "In the Bleak Midwinter" that will work:
from "The English Hymnal" (1906)
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175007034450;view=2up;seq=78

If you don't mind, I will use these sources in the MW, to save the time of searching for others.

I proof-listened your carols using these sources, and the verses you sang were PL OK!

WiltedScribe · Post by **WiltedScribe** » December 16th, 2018, 9:03 pm

No, I don't mind changing the sources.

I was basing them off past collections, but the ones you found are definitely safer bets!

alanmapstone · Post by **alanmapstone** » December 17th, 2018, 2:34 am

Hi Maria

Thanks for organising this project. It introduced me to the Cecil Sharp collection of English Folk Carols, some of which come from home county of Gloucestershire. I find these fascinating as they show a mixture of old rural superstition with more conventional christian belief. Some of the things people believed in olden times are really quite odd.

Post by **TriciaG** » December 17th, 2018, 6:42 am

John Goss is now in the author list.

Twinkle88 · Post by **Twinkle88** » December 17th, 2018, 11:28 am

Hi, Maria! I should say "...sung by LibriVox volunteers..." at the end of the "Silent Night" group song, correct?

commonsparrow3 · Post by **commonsparrow3** » December 17th, 2018, 2:38 pm

Twinkle88 wrote: ↑December 17th, 2018, 11:28 am Hi, Maria! I should say "...sung by LibriVox volunteers..." at the end of the "Silent Night" group song, correct?

Yes, that will be just fine, Twinkle!
Sorry you've been waiting several hours for a reply -- I just got home from work. I'm going to get a bite to eat before I come back to catch up with this project, so you needn't rush!

commonsparrow3 · Post by **commonsparrow3** » December 17th, 2018, 2:39 pm

TriciaG wrote: ↑December 17th, 2018, 6:42 am John Goss is now in the author list.

Thanks, Tricia! I'll add him to the MW now!