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Post by mlee » October 12th, 2017, 9:44 am

Here is Voyage of Mayflower published by William T Davis in 1908
Bradford's History of Plymouth Plantation, 1606-1646 (1908) by William T. Davis, The Voyage of the Mayflower, Chapter 9

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_mayflower_davis_ml_128kb.mp3 5:34.5

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Post by Sue Anderson » October 12th, 2017, 10:37 am

mlee wrote:Here is Making the Declaration of Independence first published in 1850 in the John Adams Diary

Adams, John (Charles Francis Adams ed.), The Works of John Adams, vol II, The Diary (1850) reprinted in Commager, H.S. and Nevins, A., The Heritage of America (1939); Maier Pauline, American Scripture: Making the Declaration of Independence (1997).
How To Cite This Article:
"Writing the Declaration of Independence, 1776," EyeWitness to History, http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (1999).

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_declaration_adams_ml_128kb.mp3 6:20

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Hi mlee, Thanks for these three readings! :) These historical topics are quite appropriate for the nonfiction collection. I see you have found all these topics on the web site "Eye Witness to History." The citations given on Eye Witness are helpful in leading to the original sources, but it is always best to quote from these original sources, most of which are available either on archive.org or books.google.com. The reason I say this is that we need to be sure that everything you are reading is actually "original, out-of-copyright text." It appears to me that the Eye Witness to History site may paraphrase or add introductory material to some of these original sources, which would make the readings unacceptable for LibriVox.

This is the information we need to have about each recording:

URL of your uploaded recording:
Title
Author
Original Source from which the selection is read
Timing of recording


Let me help you out a little... I will start with your first reading, by John Adams. The title for your reading can be flexible, but it should be as explicit as possible. This is the title as I would write it:


URL of your uploaded recording:: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_declaration_adams_ml_128kb.mp3
Title: Making the Declaration of Independence, Letter to Timothy Pickering, 6 August 1822
Author: John Adams
Source for the reading: https://archive.org/stream/worksofjohnadams02adam#page/512/mode/1up [Note, here I have gone to archive.org and found the original source mentioned in the footnotes on Eye Witness to History]
Time: 6:20

For your John Adams letter, I have entered the original source [which I found on archive.org] in the Magic Window, and this reading is now ready for our dedicated proof listener, Craig, to PL.

Please read my comments concerning your second reading below,

Thanks,
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Post by Sue Anderson » October 12th, 2017, 10:49 am

mlee wrote:Here is Inauguration of George Washington first printed by Clarence Bowen 1892

References:
Van Dorsten's account was first published in Clarence Bowen (ed.) The History of the Centennial Celebration of the Inauguration of George Washington as First President of the United States (1892) republished in Paul Angle (ed.) The American Reader (1958); Senator Maclay's account appears in Bowling, Kenneth, Helen Vent (eds.) The Diary of William Maclay (1988); Jackson, Donald (ed) The Diaries of George Washington (1976-1979); Schecter, Stephen L. and Richard Bernstein (eds.) Well Begun: Chronicles of the Early National Period (1989).


https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_inauguration_bowen_ml_128kb.mp3 6:54.5

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Hi mlee, I can see that you read this selection from the Eye Witness to History website. I located Clarence Bowen's book on archive.org. Here is where you will find it: https://archive.org/details/historyofcentenn00bowe

It appears to me that Eye Witness to History has added some introductory material, which is not in Bowen's book. There seems to be a difference between what I am seeing on Eye Witness and what I read in Bowen: https://archive.org/stream/historyofcentenn00bowe#page/21/mode/1up. We can only use out-of copyright text. It is always safest to read from the original source, not a website.

I would appreciate if your would double check yourself and make sure your recording accords with the original source. I am going to hold off on putting this selection in the Magic Window for the time being.

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Post by Sue Anderson » October 12th, 2017, 11:23 am

mlee wrote:Here is Voyage of Mayflower published by William T Davis in 1908
Bradford's History of Plymouth Plantation, 1606-1646 (1908) by William T. Davis, The Voyage of the Mayflower, Chapter 9

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_mayflower_davis_ml_128kb.mp3 5:34.5

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Hi mlee, This is an excellent topic, but I fear, again, that you are reading from the "Eye Witness to History" site and not the original source. Here is a link to the original source: https://archive.org/stream/bradfordshistor04bradgoog#page/n118/mode/1up.

I hope you can understand the importance of reading from the original source. For instance, the Bradford's History reads "...they put to sea againe with a prosperus winde which continued diverce days..." The Eye Witness site has substituted the word "several" for "diverce."

You have a fine reading voice and I think you would do a great job with the archaic language of the original! :) If you would you please check out the archive.org source and amend your reading, I would be most grateful. On re-submission I will add it to the MW.

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Also, on another topic, once you have provided the information I requested from you for the very first reading you submitted to the nonfiction collection (re the PM from 9/13), we can see about adding that to this volume.

Best wishes,

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Post by mlee » October 12th, 2017, 5:20 pm

Here is the Burning of Washington DC

References:
Gleig, George Robert, A History of the Campaigns of the British at Washington and New Orleans (1826), reprinted in Commager, Henry Steele and Allan Nevins The Heritage of America (1939); Lloyd, Alan, The Scorching of Washington (1974); Seale, William The President's House, Vol. I (1986).

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_burning_Gleig_ml_128kb.mp3 5:31

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Post by soupy » October 12th, 2017, 5:53 pm

Thanks for the reading about the Declaration of Independence Melvin. I listened and it is PLOK, However I would replace the introductory material with the statement below since it is in the original source.

In the month of August, 1822, Colonel Timothy Pickering addressed to Mr. Adams a letter of inquiry, respecting the origin of the Declaration of Independence. His reply contains so many other interesting particulars, besides those which relate to the single purpose of the letter, that it appears peculiarly suitable for insertion in this place in full. This is an excerpt of the letter.


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Post by mlee » October 13th, 2017, 6:20 am

soupy wrote:Thanks for the reading about the Declaration of Independence Melvin. I listened and it is PLOK, However I would replace the introductory material with the statement below since it is in the original source.

In the month of August, 1822, Colonel Timothy Pickering addressed to Mr. Adams a letter of inquiry, respecting the origin of the Declaration of Independence. His reply contains so many other interesting particulars, besides those which relate to the single purpose of the letter, that it appears peculiarly suitable for insertion in this place in full. This is an excerpt of the letter.


Craig


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Post by Sue Anderson » October 13th, 2017, 10:34 am

mlee wrote:Here is the Burning of Washington DC

References:
Gleig, George Robert, A History of the Campaigns of the British at Washington and New Orleans (1826), reprinted in Commager, Henry Steele and Allan Nevins The Heritage of America (1939); Lloyd, Alan, The Scorching of Washington (1974); Seale, William The President's House, Vol. I (1986).

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_burning_Gleig_ml_128kb.mp3 5:31

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Hello mleee,

We need ALL of the following information posted here in the thread before I can possibly evaluate whether your recording meets the criteria for inclusion in the nonfiction collection. As I have mentioned before, all sources must be in the public domain.

Please post ALL of the following:

1) The link to your file you copied from the uploader.

2) A URL linking your recording to the Original, Public Domain Source from which you read (etext URL). NOTE: If posting from Gutenberg, please provide the link to the download page, e.g. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/# (where # is the Gutenberg project number for the book).

3)Length in minutes.

4)The title of your piece, as you would like it to be in the catalog (subject to revision by the BC)

5)The full name of the author of the piece



Until I have all this information, I cannot consider your recording for the Nonfiction Collectiion,

Thank you,

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Post by soupy » October 13th, 2017, 7:27 pm

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Post by Sue Anderson » October 14th, 2017, 7:40 am

Good morning, Craig, Thanks for your continuing exploration of the ideas of Leibniz. :)

The Wikipedia article on Sophia of Hanover was fascinating!
"Sophia became a friend and admirer of Gottfried Leibniz while he was librarian at the Court of Hanover. Their friendship lasted from 1676 until her death in 1714. This friendship resulted in a substantial correspondence, first published in the nineteenth century (Klopp 1973), that reveals Sophia to have been a woman of exceptional intellectual ability and curiosity. She was well-read in the works of René Descartes and Baruch Spinoza." From the pictures, she also looks like she was an elegant woman!


There were just a couple of minor slips: At 5:11.0 "all this to the contrary notwithstanding..." You read "understanding." And at 5:31 "This is why there is certainly room to doubt..." You read "certain." [I hesitated over pointing this last one out, but decided that Leibniz would have perceived the difference...]

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Post by MillionMoments » October 14th, 2017, 9:16 am

Fruit Soups by Reily M Fletcher Berry
Link to text: https://archive.org/stream/fruitrecipesmanu00berr_0#page/n19/mode/2up (read up to "see also the prune...")
Link to file:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_fruitsoups_berry_mgt_128kb.mp3
3 minutes.


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Post by Sue Anderson » October 14th, 2017, 11:07 am

Sophia's Memoirs sound like a winner! :)

"I was born, they tell me, October 14, 1630, and being the twelfth child of the King my father, and of the Queen my mother, I can well believe that my birth caused them but little satisfaction. They were even puzzled to find a name and godparents for me, as all the kings and princes of consideration had already performed this office for the children that came before me. The plan was adopted of writing various names on slips of paper and casting lots for the one which I should bear; thus change bestowed on me the name of Sophia. No sooner was I strong enough to be moved than the Queen my mother sent me to Leyden...where her Majesty had her whole family brought up apart from herself, preferring the sight of her monkeys and dogs to that of her children..."

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Post by Sue Anderson » October 14th, 2017, 11:36 am

MillionMoments wrote:Fruit Soups by Reily M Fletcher Berry
Link to text: https://archive.org/stream/fruitrecipesmanu00berr_0#page/n19/mode/2up (read up to "see also the prune...")
Link to file:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_fruitsoups_berry_mgt_128kb.mp3
3 minutes.
Hi Million Moments, Thanks for Fruit Soups! :) Your selection really brought back memories for me, in this case my first "foreign" travel, which was to Mexico when I was 12 years old (a good long time ago!) An old friend of my father's, who was living in Mexico City, took us out to lunch. This friend was a vegetarian, and he took us to a vegetarian restaurant which was located on the 2nd floor of a building overlooking the Zocalo. We had fruit soup. I had never eaten "vegetarian" let alone heard of "fruit soup" or second floor restaurants, so it was quite a formative experience!

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Post by mlee » October 14th, 2017, 12:09 pm

Here is #2 History of Plymouth Plantation by William Bradford, Houghton Mifflin Company 1912, page 149.

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_plymouthhistory_bradford_ml_128kb.mp3 7:45.5

1. Do I need to rework the intro and the ending.
2. Is the above footnote sufficient
3. There is more to the Chapter 9 but I choose to end it at "Their proper element."

I want to do this right just in case i find another great story - and there are legion.

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