My question was . . . is the MC able to set a time limit? But I guess this is better discussed in the advice forum. So, as time permits, I'll go over there.Availle wrote:Well, after you have received a notification, you must visit the thread - while you're logged in to the forums!
If you don't - or visit without loggin in - the system will assume you have not read the notification / the recent posts and will not send any further notifications until you do.
It's actually quite smart this way!
COMPLETE: Short Nonfiction Collection, Vol. 53 - jo
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Sue Anderson
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Hi Bill, I just downloaded this file, to check the specs and take a listen. I could hear, immediately, that you've got a great reading voice and your recording, in general, is going to be great!williamjones wrote:Sue,
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_stirringtimes1of2_marktwain_bj_128kb.mp3
Thanks.
But, sadly, there is a problem we need to address. You start off your recording by reading the abstract of Twain's remarks from the Cornell University web page. This abstract is not in the public domain. You need to start your reading where Twain starts, i.e. "Stirring Times in Austria, I. The Government in the Frying-Pan. Here in Vienna..."
I will say this, that anybody with a teaching or academic background often wishes they could add introductory remarks to some of their LibriVox readings to make them more comprehensible to modern listeners. I can easily understand how Twain's comments on Austria would "make more sense" with some introductory material. But we have to stick to the public domain. So, you will need to cut out the abstract material from your recording. Please wait to do this until we have heard from Craig, who is doing the PLing, to see if there are any textual corrections for you to make.
Since you've been having trouble seeing the e-mails, just this once, I'm going to PM you this message also.
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williamjones
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Hey, Sue,
Apparently, some kind soul has set me up to receive all the posts to this forum.
So, I *am* now seeing everything I would want to see.
Sorry about having included the abstract of the "Stirring Times" essay.
Thanks for the "catch". I'd hate to have been the cause of the LV higher-ups being dragged into court then pilloried on the county square.
Apparently, some kind soul has set me up to receive all the posts to this forum.
So, I *am* now seeing everything I would want to see.
Sorry about having included the abstract of the "Stirring Times" essay.
Thanks for the "catch". I'd hate to have been the cause of the LV higher-ups being dragged into court then pilloried on the county square.
-- Bill Jones
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williamjones
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I went to do that yesterday and found that only "UNsubscribe" was available. I presume that someone subscribed for me.soupy wrote:Hi Sue and BillShort Nonfiction Collection, Vol. 53 - jo
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Hi William.
I used the following link and the text is the same. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009794089
Text begins on page 200.
Once you remove the introduction the following items can be looked at.
3:01 – didn’t say quote 5:00 said end quote - - I'd say get rid of end quote.
11:52 p. 206 We can say to-day what no other nation of first importance in the family of Christian civilizations can say: that there exists no Austrian who has made an enduring name for himself which is familiar all around the globe." Reread this sentence.
17:02 p. 209 the majority helpless, and keep it so as long as it pleased. – read keep it so long as it pleased
27:51 p. 215 a boom and roar which long endured, and stopped all business for the time being. – forgot to read long
39:16 p. 222 The subject was a peculiarly difficult one – you read particularly
Interesting article -
I used the following link and the text is the same. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009794089
Text begins on page 200.
Once you remove the introduction the following items can be looked at.
3:01 – didn’t say quote 5:00 said end quote - - I'd say get rid of end quote.
11:52 p. 206 We can say to-day what no other nation of first importance in the family of Christian civilizations can say: that there exists no Austrian who has made an enduring name for himself which is familiar all around the globe." Reread this sentence.
17:02 p. 209 the majority helpless, and keep it so as long as it pleased. – read keep it so long as it pleased
27:51 p. 215 a boom and roar which long endured, and stopped all business for the time being. – forgot to read long
39:16 p. 222 The subject was a peculiarly difficult one – you read particularly
Interesting article -
CraigThe recent troubles have grown out of Count Badeni's necessities. He could not carry on his government without a majority vote in the House at his back, and in order to secure it he had to make a trade of some sort. He made it with the Czechs — the Bohemians. The terms were not easy for him: he must pass a bill making the Czech tongue the official language in Bohemia in place of the German. This created a storm. All the Germans in Austria were incensed. In numbers they form but a fourth part of the empire's population, but they urge that the country's public business should be conducted in one common tongue, and that tongue a world language — which German is.
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Second section William
Nicely read
A few little errors noted.
1:45 p. 227 As to the make-up of the House, it is this – repeated it is this
8:27 p. 231 – Some of the remarks were of – you read one for some
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10:24 p. 232 which sets the C. S.’s in a sort of frenzy. CS should be Christian Socialists
15:02 p. 236 last paragraph – read Schmul Leeb Kohn! Twice – Twain wrote it three times –
27:11 p. 243 Whom the gods destroy they first make mad. You read first they make mad - since it was a quote
29: 16 p. 244. footnote read that goes on page 241 end of page after and imported them into the parliament should be placed at 24:35
37:14 p. 249 top of page – I have not twice seen abiding history made before my eyes – you read any eyes
Craig
Nicely read
A few little errors noted.
1:45 p. 227 As to the make-up of the House, it is this – repeated it is this
8:27 p. 231 – Some of the remarks were of – you read one for some
–
10:24 p. 232 which sets the C. S.’s in a sort of frenzy. CS should be Christian Socialists
15:02 p. 236 last paragraph – read Schmul Leeb Kohn! Twice – Twain wrote it three times –
27:11 p. 243 Whom the gods destroy they first make mad. You read first they make mad - since it was a quote
29: 16 p. 244. footnote read that goes on page 241 end of page after and imported them into the parliament should be placed at 24:35
37:14 p. 249 top of page – I have not twice seen abiding history made before my eyes – you read any eyes
Craig
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williamjones
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Craig:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
I am embarrassed that so many foux pas remained after my proof listening.
I will attend to these omissions and errors tomorrow morning and re-upload.
Thanks, again!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
I am embarrassed that so many foux pas remained after my proof listening.
I will attend to these omissions and errors tomorrow morning and re-upload.
Thanks, again!
-- Bill Jones
When you think that you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this: you haven't.
--- Thomas Edison
When you think that you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this: you haven't.
--- Thomas Edison
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williamjones
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Craig,
With regard to the very last correction you've noted:
"...not twice seen abiding history made before any eyes..."
When I first read this text, *I* said "my", then corrected it to "any" because in *my* source text "any" is what I find. I checked it again just now. Of course "my" is more natural.
I have a question about this point: I read from one source, and you're proofing from another source. How does a reader handle this situation?
2nd question: you inserted a block quote referencing Count Badeni. What do you expect me to do with that quote? I don't understand why it's there.
Guidance, please.
With regard to the very last correction you've noted:
"...not twice seen abiding history made before any eyes..."
When I first read this text, *I* said "my", then corrected it to "any" because in *my* source text "any" is what I find. I checked it again just now. Of course "my" is more natural.
I have a question about this point: I read from one source, and you're proofing from another source. How does a reader handle this situation?
2nd question: you inserted a block quote referencing Count Badeni. What do you expect me to do with that quote? I don't understand why it's there.
Guidance, please.
-- Bill Jones
When you think that you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this: you haven't.
--- Thomas Edison
When you think that you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this: you haven't.
--- Thomas Edison
Craig,
With regard to the very last correction you've noted:
"...not twice seen abiding history made before any eyes..."
When I first read this text, *I* said "my", then corrected it to "any" because in *my* source text "any" is what I find. I checked it again just now. Of course "my" is more natural.
I think my is what should be read because as you say it is more natural. Your source could have a typo.
I have a question about this point: I read from one source, and you're proofing from another source. How does a reader handle this situation?
William: your source goes to a pdf so I decided it would be easier for the listener following along to read from a link on the internet. Both texts are the same essentially except for the short into at the beginning which Sue said you should remove.
2nd question: you inserted a block quote referencing Count Badeni. What do you expect me to do with that quote? I don't understand why it's there.
According to the text I used the footnote was for an asterisk at 29:16 but from your source it was inserted much later where there was no asterisk to go with it.
Guidance, please.
I used the following link and the text is the same. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009794089
Text begins on page 200. second part begins near p. 227
You did a very good job for such a long section
Craig
With regard to the very last correction you've noted:
"...not twice seen abiding history made before any eyes..."
When I first read this text, *I* said "my", then corrected it to "any" because in *my* source text "any" is what I find. I checked it again just now. Of course "my" is more natural.
I think my is what should be read because as you say it is more natural. Your source could have a typo.
I have a question about this point: I read from one source, and you're proofing from another source. How does a reader handle this situation?
William: your source goes to a pdf so I decided it would be easier for the listener following along to read from a link on the internet. Both texts are the same essentially except for the short into at the beginning which Sue said you should remove.
2nd question: you inserted a block quote referencing Count Badeni. What do you expect me to do with that quote? I don't understand why it's there.
According to the text I used the footnote was for an asterisk at 29:16 but from your source it was inserted much later where there was no asterisk to go with it.
Guidance, please.
I used the following link and the text is the same. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009794089
Text begins on page 200. second part begins near p. 227
You did a very good job for such a long section
Craig
The world needs some positive fanaticism.
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Sue Anderson
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Friends,
Let me help out here.
First, let me speak to the the level of proof listening. I, as book coordinator, chose "Standard" as the level of proof listening for the Non Fiction Collection. [Please reference #5 in the instructions]. In standard proof listening, small things, like whether a word should be "any" or "my," as long as the difference does not substantially alter the meaning of the text, we can let pass. So, Bill, I accept your reading of "any." Furthermore, you are correct in your assertion that the Cornell PDF reads "any."
Secondly, this textual problem illustrates my firm belief that, whenever possible, we should read directly from an original text. I just now personally checked the Harper's Magazine text (from Google) against the Cornell University PDF, and there is a typo in the Cornell text. The Harper's Magazine text original reads "my."
Thirdly, let me praise both of you, Bill and Craig, for your work. Bill, you did a great job reading a difficult text. And Craig, your DPLing is and has always been admirable. With "Standard" proof listening, there is no obligation to actually read the text while PLing, but Craig, the fact that you do read the text brings the quality of your proof listening to a very high level, basically to the level of "word perfect." You catch many small errors that would slip through if you did not read the text. Your work greatly contributes to the quality of our readings. Word perfect proofing is not required for the Nonfiction Collection, but it's wonderful to have.
Fourthly, Bill, you asked about the block quote referencing Count Badeni in Craig's post. Actually, Craig was throwing you a complement there. He wrote in his post "Interesting article," and then he quoted from the article what he found particularly interesting: i.e. the political trade-offs over which was to be the official language, Czech or German. When I'm PLing, I often do the same thing, quote something from a reading that I found of particular value. I see it as a way of letting the reader know that I paid attention to what he/she had to say, and it also lets anybody who follows the posts in the thread get a taste of what is in the material that other people are reading.
So, lets fix anything big, and let the small things pass.....
Regards from your book coordinator,
Let me help out here.
First, let me speak to the the level of proof listening. I, as book coordinator, chose "Standard" as the level of proof listening for the Non Fiction Collection. [Please reference #5 in the instructions]. In standard proof listening, small things, like whether a word should be "any" or "my," as long as the difference does not substantially alter the meaning of the text, we can let pass. So, Bill, I accept your reading of "any." Furthermore, you are correct in your assertion that the Cornell PDF reads "any."
Secondly, this textual problem illustrates my firm belief that, whenever possible, we should read directly from an original text. I just now personally checked the Harper's Magazine text (from Google) against the Cornell University PDF, and there is a typo in the Cornell text. The Harper's Magazine text original reads "my."
Thirdly, let me praise both of you, Bill and Craig, for your work. Bill, you did a great job reading a difficult text. And Craig, your DPLing is and has always been admirable. With "Standard" proof listening, there is no obligation to actually read the text while PLing, but Craig, the fact that you do read the text brings the quality of your proof listening to a very high level, basically to the level of "word perfect." You catch many small errors that would slip through if you did not read the text. Your work greatly contributes to the quality of our readings. Word perfect proofing is not required for the Nonfiction Collection, but it's wonderful to have.
Fourthly, Bill, you asked about the block quote referencing Count Badeni in Craig's post. Actually, Craig was throwing you a complement there. He wrote in his post "Interesting article," and then he quoted from the article what he found particularly interesting: i.e. the political trade-offs over which was to be the official language, Czech or German. When I'm PLing, I often do the same thing, quote something from a reading that I found of particular value. I see it as a way of letting the reader know that I paid attention to what he/she had to say, and it also lets anybody who follows the posts in the thread get a taste of what is in the material that other people are reading.
So, lets fix anything big, and let the small things pass.....
Regards from your book coordinator,
Thanks as always for your professional guidance Sue.
Craig
Craig
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williamjones
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I am grateful to both of you, Sue and Craig, for having taken time to polish up my reading of this Twain piece.
Furthermore, the advice that you both are giving me is very much appreciated.
Hang in there with me and soon I'll be a "real" LV reader.
Furthermore, the advice that you both are giving me is very much appreciated.
Hang in there with me and soon I'll be a "real" LV reader.
-- Bill Jones
When you think that you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this: you haven't.
--- Thomas Edison
When you think that you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this: you haven't.
--- Thomas Edison
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MillionMoments
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So there is this thing called Nonfiction November on Booktube, and I decided I would also read four pieces for the nonfiction collection on the themes, which the people who run Nonfiction November let you interpret how you will! I present three of them here, I hope to record the forth tomorrow.
On the theme "love"
An extract from "The Training of a Soveirgn" by Queen Victoria
Text URL: https://archive.org/stream/trainingofsovere00victrich#page/56/mode/2up
I read the diary entries for Thursday 17th March, Wednesday 18th May, Saturday 21st May and Friday 10th June where the young Victoria writes about the love of her cousins (Especially that Albert!)
MP3 URL: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_trainingofasovereign_victoria_mgt_128kb.mp3
Length: 7 minutes 41 seconds
On the theme "substance"
Description of a grain of wheat by Mrs E E Kellog
Text URL: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12238/12238-h/12238-h.htm#Description
MP3 URL: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_wheat_kellogg_mgt_128kb.mp3
Length: 4 minutes 9 seconds
Taking the "substance" theme to mean what things are made up of!
On the theme "home"
The shrine of St Edmund by Jocelyn of Brakelond
Text URL: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/37780/37780-h/37780-h.htm#page_162
MP3 URL:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_stedmund_jocelyn_mgt_128kb.mp3
Length: 21 minutes and 30 seconds
My hometown is Bury St Edmunds, where the events described occurred.
Hopefully I will be adding the final recording, on the theme of "scholarship", tomorrow.
On the theme "love"
An extract from "The Training of a Soveirgn" by Queen Victoria
Text URL: https://archive.org/stream/trainingofsovere00victrich#page/56/mode/2up
I read the diary entries for Thursday 17th March, Wednesday 18th May, Saturday 21st May and Friday 10th June where the young Victoria writes about the love of her cousins (Especially that Albert!)
MP3 URL: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_trainingofasovereign_victoria_mgt_128kb.mp3
Length: 7 minutes 41 seconds
On the theme "substance"
Description of a grain of wheat by Mrs E E Kellog
Text URL: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12238/12238-h/12238-h.htm#Description
MP3 URL: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_wheat_kellogg_mgt_128kb.mp3
Length: 4 minutes 9 seconds
Taking the "substance" theme to mean what things are made up of!
On the theme "home"
The shrine of St Edmund by Jocelyn of Brakelond
Text URL: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/37780/37780-h/37780-h.htm#page_162
MP3 URL:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf053_stedmund_jocelyn_mgt_128kb.mp3
Length: 21 minutes and 30 seconds
My hometown is Bury St Edmunds, where the events described occurred.
Hopefully I will be adding the final recording, on the theme of "scholarship", tomorrow.
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Sue Anderson
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Hi Million Moments, Thanks for these!MillionMoments wrote:So there is this thing called Nonfiction November on Booktube, and I decided I would also read four pieces for the nonfiction collection on the themes, which the people who run Nonfiction November let you interpret how you will! I present three of them here, I hope to record the forth tomorrow.
My hometown is Bury St Edmunds, where the events described occurred.
Hopefully I will be adding the final recording, on the theme of "scholarship", tomorrow.
What is Booktube?-
Sue Anderson
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Hi everybody, Looks like we're at the limit of contributions for volume 53. There are still quite a few loose ends to wrap up around volume 53-- a couple of claimed sections, corrections, proof listening--before we move on. Please, everyone, feel free to keep recording. There will be a next volume! But, please, except for Million Moments and MsFry, please hold off on submissions for a few days. Thank you.