(Complete) Summa Theologica IIIa -The Saviour, His Incarnation -mb

mscllc wrote: ↑May 17th, 2019, 7:28 am ST 3 52 Of Christ's Descent into Hell
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50:06

I actually have a PL note for this section, but I feel bad about it for what it is.

PL Note Question 52:

Unfortunately we do not allow reader's notes in recordings, so the note @42:52 will have to be removed. We do allow such things in the text summary if desired, but I don't know if that would work well in a work like this. Sorry!

mscllc · Post by **mscllc** » May 17th, 2019, 11:07 pm

This project already contains a note in section 32 on "Saint Thomas and the Immaculate Conception", as a separate entry (which the translation anticipated).
Perhaps another section could be added to the project with a note on "Saint Thomas and the Children of Limbo", separating the doctrinal commentary from the text of the question?
Both could be called "doctrinal notes", widely known for those who know, a potential source of great misunderstanding for those who do not know.
For example, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo footnote 31, which quotes the same text I recorded for clarification -- published elsewhere to the whole world within its official source http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a1.htm.
A simple text quote hidden elsewhere does not help anyone who only has access to the voice recordings to which they are listening… (it is not a real solution)

The same issue is relevant to my potential "next project" -- the recording of the Summa Theologiae in Latin.
I thought that it would be necessary to begin the recording precisely with a reader's note (my personal explanation of what I am doing, less "official" than what appears here), explaining the essential differences between Medieval Church Latin from Classical Latin, so that my particular pronunciation will not throw people off who have a "classical" training -- or so as not to mislead listeners who may use it as a means for practicing Latin pronunciation who may need to know that there is a difference according to time-period of the writing concerned. Secondly, while reading the English translation in English where English is spoken as a native language, it is possible to distinguish the content of the "objections" which introduce each question or certain "quotations" that come from other authors by a change of intonation -- whereas this might not be as clear, without giving prior notification to the listeners of this structure within the questions, where Medieval Latin is read with its "Italian" ecclesial pronunciation with an unavoidedly-superimposed English accent on top of it -- a problem which could cause confusion from the outset and cause listeners to needlessly "abandon" a project that is less problematic than it initially might seem…

In brief, I want to avoid creating a disservice from what is intended to be a service… mscllc

Post by **m8b1** » May 18th, 2019, 12:47 pm

The note for section 32 is fine, because it is part of the actual text of the edition of the book. So no issues there.

I can link to the Vatican website for the catechism entry on the catalog page, and/or you can put a note in the summary as well. I should be able to hyperlink it direct from the summary, I think, instead of off to the side.

We don't have many rules for Librivox, but this is one that is pretty set.

Here is the official Librivox policy on reader's notes: https://wiki.librivox.org/index.php?title=Recording_%26_Text_Policies

Our objective is to record texts as they were published. This means:

You may not change the published text in any way (eg. to remove swear words, language or ideas you find objectionable, or to "update" a text). Our objective is to record texts as they were written.
You may not add or remove text.
You may not add an audio introduction or editorial comment. You can however include this kind of thing in the catalog text.

The ecclesiastical/classical Latin note is probably the same situation. I will ask the other admins however......

mscllc · Post by **mscllc** » May 18th, 2019, 1:45 pm

The latest version should show up as reduced to "49:15" long, assuming that it successfully replaced the pre-existing file with the same name upon uploading:
https://librivox.org/uploads/m8b1/summa_theologica3_13_63_aquinas_128kb.mp3
mscllc

Post by **m8b1** » May 18th, 2019, 5:07 pm

It is PL OK now. I am really sorry I had to tell you the note couldn't stay. I felt bad about it!

mscllc · Post by **mscllc** » May 19th, 2019, 7:04 am

"On the evening of that first day of the week, when the doors were locked, … Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, "Peace be with you."" (Jn 20:19)

ST 3 53 Of Christ's Resurrection
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30:57

Post by **m8b1** » May 20th, 2019, 11:52 am

Question 53 is PL OK!

mscllc · Post by **mscllc** » May 25th, 2019, 12:27 am

ST 3 54 Of the Quality of Christ Rising Again
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30:58