[COMPLETE] France at War by Rudyard Kipling - smijen

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Post by tim bulkeley » May 18th, 2015, 1:08 pm

France At War: On the Frontier of Civilization by Rudyard Kipling (1865 - 1936).

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In 1915, as the "Great War" (World War 1) entered its second year Rudyard Kipling made a journalistic tour of the front, visiting French armed forces. By then he was already winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature (the first writer in English to be so honoured). He published his observations in articles in the Daily Telegraph in England, and in the New York Sun. At that stage of the war nationalistic sentiments were running high but the true cost of war was beginning to be understood "at home".

The collection of journalistic pieces is preceded by a poem, "France", that had been published before the outbreak of war (in 1913) which has a more overblown jingoistic feel to it than the reflections on war itself. The poem does, though, show Kipling's love of France, as well as his sense of the destiny of imperial dreams.

Kipling himself was an ardent and effective writer of propaganda directed primarily against German treatment of civilians. The "rape of Belgium" in 1914 and the sinking of the Lusitania earlier in 1915 were particularly shocking. In Kipling's eyes such "total war" was a renunciation of civilisation. The heat of his reaction is associated with his militarism. Although not a soldier, Kipling was educated at the United Services College (a school for the sons of officers which prepared students to enter Sandhurst and Dartmouth - the British army and navy officers training establishments). His writing is deeply imbued with notions of military service as honorable and, among civilised people, restrained and governed by rules.

Kipling encouraged his son John to enlist, and perhaps used his connections to get John enlisted despite poor eyesight and two earlier refusals. John died on 27th September 1915, just ten days after these articles were published (6th -17th September 1915).

Thus Kipling's account (not least in view of his reputation today as a supporter of British imperialism, and his jingoism) is still interesting one hundred years later as we try to understand our ancestors' experience.
(Draft by Tim Bulkeley)
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Post by smijen » May 18th, 2015, 1:55 pm

Hi Tim,
I can MC for you. Back soon with a MW.
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Post by tim bulkeley » May 18th, 2015, 2:04 pm

Thanks very much Sarah, that was quick :)
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Post by smijen » May 18th, 2015, 2:11 pm

All set! I changed "chapter" to "section" in your intro and outro, since the book doesn't really have chapters.

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Post by tim bulkeley » May 18th, 2015, 4:09 pm

It is nearly a year since I finished a project on Legamus The Square Egg and Other Sketches, since then what time I have had for recording has been devoted to reading Winnie-the-Pooh (the text though not the illustrations are out of copyright in countries like New Zealand and Canada, though not in the US or EU).

I should now return to Librivox after too long an absence. It seems like a good idea to continue reading Kipling, and these journalistic pieces from one hundred years ago seem appropriate as we “remember” the momentous events of that period. (Saki's Square Egg contained stories that provide interesting first hand glimpses of life in the trenches also.)

If you are thinking of offering to proof listen this work please be willing to be more “finicky” than you would usually be. I would like to make wording, reading, and sound quality as good as I can and would rather spend some time re-reading or editing than put out a second-rate book!
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Post by kathrinee » May 18th, 2015, 8:43 pm

This looks interesting! I'd like to offer my services as a DPL :D
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Post by tim bulkeley » May 18th, 2015, 10:36 pm

Thanks very much Kathrine, I think it should be interesting. Kipling wrote really well, and had a sympathetic and compassionate eye for people. Though since the 60s he's been seen as jingoistic and an apologist for British imperialism. There's truth in that, he was a man of his time, but it is also over simplified, because he was someone who cared about others. I love the Just So Stories and the fun he has playing with words, I don't expect that sort of fireworks here, but hope it will be fun as well as interesting.
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Post by tim bulkeley » May 19th, 2015, 2:25 pm

I am starting to read, with the first journalistic section (leaving the poem till I am back in the swing of Kipling - as I find poems more difficult to read than prose). I notice that the book has:
1
ON THE FRONTIER OF CIVILIZATION
It will be strange to say section two for this! So, should we go back to chapter or do I just leave out the "1" when reading?
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Post by tim bulkeley » May 19th, 2015, 5:43 pm

Aagh! I went to login to the MW to put the title and link to section 2, which I have just recorded and I cannot find or remember the login.

Section 2 "On the Frontier of Civilization" is at: https://librivox.org/uploads/smijen/franceatwar_02_kipling_128kb.mp3 it should be 18:02 and 16.5MB.
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Post by smijen » May 19th, 2015, 6:21 pm

Easily fixed - I've renumbered the sections from 0 to 6! So I took the liberty of changing your file name to franceatwar_01_kipling_128kb.mp3 , which means you'll have to change the intro and outro. Is that OK? I can always change it back if you prefer.

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Post by tim bulkeley » May 19th, 2015, 6:35 pm

Thanks :)

I am uploading the renamed file now reading "section 1" instead of 2
Now link here: https://librivox.org/uploads/smijen/franceatwar_01_kipling_128kb.mp3 but still 16.5MB and 18:02

PS Kathrine please be extra critical of this one in terms of sound quality and such as it will be more difficult to change things like how I fix the mic etc. once we get further in!
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Post by tim bulkeley » May 19th, 2015, 7:09 pm

PS, I have found a couple of places where I stumbled over the Gutenberg reading, and now checking on the Kipling Society site find what seems a "better" reading. Should I correct the Gutenberg text for this recording (and email them the corrections)?

The first is at 10:10 -
Gutenberg: By divine accident of light and pose it St. Martin giving his cloak to the beggar.
Kipling Society: By divine accident of light and pose it was St. Martin giving his cloak to the beggar.
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Post by smijen » May 19th, 2015, 8:06 pm

My official answer is no. Read the Gutenberg version as it's written.

Practically speaking, if something is clearly a typo then read it so that it makes sense, of course.

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It doesn't hurt to contact Gutenberg if you're so inclined, but it's quite likely that the original had some errors in it and the Gutenberg version is "correct" (that is, true to the original). This is a pretty common occurrence with older texts and it's why we tell people not to read from newer versions. That hard-copy version of Jane Eyre or Christmas Carol or whatever you have lying around your house will undoubtedly have had several "fixes" by editors and they can then claim copyright on the work.

This is what the Kipling Society seems to be doing as well, if you look at their Copyright note near the bottom of this page: http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/rg_index.htm ... so definitely not OK to read from this site.
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Post by tim bulkeley » May 19th, 2015, 9:32 pm

Yes, I understand the copyright issues, though the Kipling Society only looks to be claiming copyright for the "notes" not the text, as I read their site. I am as always reading from the Gutenberg version. The mistake above, even if it is in the original (British as well as US?) version, does seem to be simply a mistake...
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Post by tim bulkeley » May 19th, 2015, 9:48 pm

PS the correct version is on p.21 (33 of the PDF) here https://ia700400.us.archive.org/17/items/franceatwaronfro01kipl/franceatwaronfro01kipl.pdfon Archive.org in a copy of the book dated 1915 so I will correct Gutenberg in the light of this original out of copyright text.
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