Abandoned Solo-- The Time Machine by H. G. Wells - AF/dtg

peatbogfaery · Post by **peatbogfaery** » July 7th, 2007, 10:49 pm

I'm in the middle of moving, so it'll be maybe a week before I'm on the internet again - edit it first

ductapeguy · Post by **ductapeguy** » July 11th, 2007, 6:03 pm

TBOL3 wrote:Thanks, I'll take that offer peatbogfaery.

I have Chap. 2 edited, (except for the tag which is still at the end). So do you want to proof it before or after I move the LV disclaimer?

I also have a question. DuctTapeGuy, you were talking about PG audiobook of The Time Machine. It also says it's copyrighted. But http://www.botar.us/timemachine.html also has a copy of the EXACT same files. And says it's PD. Can anyone clarify what the copy status of it is? Thanks.

From what I can read on the Gutenberg Page, The text and the recording of it are public domain. The references to project Gutenberg are trademarked and under copyright. This would be to protect the Project Gutenberg name from being attached to a commercial product. If I'm reading the conditions right, if a person strips away reference to Gutenberg, and uses only the text from the book, then it is in public domain.

Can you repost chapter 1? I am so sorry but I managed to lose off my server and when I got my new computer.

TBOL3 · Post by **TBOL3** » July 11th, 2007, 8:47 pm

Yes, I will, let me just edit one more chapter. And I'll make an intro for all three of them.

And I was not talking about the computerized recording, but gutenbergs human recorded version.

Bibliographic Record [help] Creator Wells, H. G. (Herbert George), 1866-1946
Title The Time Machine
Language English
Category Audio Book, human-read
EText-No. 17401
Release Date 2005-12-26
Copyright Status Copyrighted. You may download this ebook but you may be limited in other uses. Check the license inside the ebook.
Base Directory /files/17401/

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/17401

The big reason why I really want to know is mostly because it would make a really good second book for my Podcast.

Cori · Post by **Cori** » July 12th, 2007, 2:23 am

That's clearly copyrighted, according to the HTML file included with the book. The reader, Roy Trumbull, is a podcaster himself, http://www.storyspieler.com/ so you could contact him about using the reading for yours.

From a really superficial look at the botar site, unless they have written permission from the reader, they are ignoring his copyright. "Creating this work from public domain print editions means that no one owns a United States copyright on this work" is not actually true in my understanding -- no-one can copyright the core text, but a given performance is copyrighted to the performer.

ductapeguy · Post by **ductapeguy** » July 12th, 2007, 2:31 am

From the Gutenberg Etext (emphasis mine)

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You are not planning on selling it, so you're good. But I would suggest you podcast your own version of it. It is your show.

Cori · Post by **Cori** » July 12th, 2007, 2:37 am

I disagree, Sean. It's PG's mess-up, the file clearly says:

** This is a COPYRIGHTED Project Gutenberg eBook, Details Below **
** Please follow the copyright guidelines in this file. **
This audio eBook was made available by Roy Trumbull. It is Copyright (C) 2005 by Roy Trumbull.

The part you quote is legal boilerplate that goes into every book, and in this case, shouldn't be there. And while TBOL3 could use that in court, if he needed to ... I don't think it's really fair to Roy because it wasn't his intent to make his version PD (as far as I can see from that file.)

I don't really understand why you'd want to podcast it, though, TBOL3 ... you're recording your own version after all. Why not use that..?

ductapeguy · Post by **ductapeguy** » July 12th, 2007, 2:41 am

I stand corrected. Thanks Cori.
There you go TBOL3. I still think you should podcast your own version.

TBOL3 · Post by **TBOL3** » July 12th, 2007, 4:22 pm

Yep, I guess I have to. I was just trying to give the listeners some other voices besides just my own.

TBOL3 · Post by **TBOL3** » July 24th, 2007, 11:14 am

The edited Chapters 1-2 are uploading...

TBOL3 · Post by **TBOL3** » July 24th, 2007, 11:28 am

Umm, I got the error message, Error:
File type "" of file 01 not allowed.
, do you know what the problem is?

ductapeguy · Post by **ductapeguy** » July 24th, 2007, 11:31 am

No I don't. I can't get the uploader at ductapeguy.net to work either. Try David's uploader or mediafire or usendit.

TBOL3 · Post by **TBOL3** » July 24th, 2007, 12:00 pm

Chapter 1: http://dl9.ohshare.com/v/5820641/timemachinewells_01.mp3.html

TBOL3 · Post by **TBOL3** » July 24th, 2007, 12:15 pm

Chapter 2: http://dl9.ohshare.com/v/175702/timemachinewells_02.mp3.html

ductapeguy · Post by **ductapeguy** » July 24th, 2007, 12:36 pm

Got them thanks.

TBOL3 · Post by **TBOL3** » July 24th, 2007, 8:02 pm

Chapter 3: http://dl9.ohshare.com/v/4075404/timemachinewells_03.mp3.html