[COMPLETE][ANCIENT GREEK]Θουκυδίδου Ιστορίαι Book 2 -arb

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Ιστορίαι Book 2 by Θουκυδίδης Ολόρου (c. 460 BC - c. 395 BC) .

This project is now complete! All audio files can be found on our catalog page: http://librivox.org/histories-book-2-by-thucydides/
Η Ιστορία του Θουκυδίδη εξιστορεί τα πρώτα 20 χρόνια του πολέμου μεταξύ της Αθήνας και της Σπάρτης, που κράτησε από το 431 μέχρι το 404 π.Χ. και είναι γνωστός ως Πελοποννησιακός Πόλεμος. Είναι έργο ζωής ενός καλλιεργημένου, ευσυνείδητου και δραστήριου ανθρώπου, που προσφέρει μια διεισδυτική ματιά στα γεγονότα της εποχής του και την ανθρώπινη φύση.
Το αρχαίο κείμενο διαβασμένο με σύγχρονη νεοελληνική προφορά. Βιβλίο 2 από τα 8.

Thucydides' Histories is the history of the first 20 years of the war between Athens and Sparta, which lasted from 431 until 404 B.C., also known as the Peloponnesian War. It is the life's work of a very sophisticated, efficient and active man which gives us a deep insight to the occurences of his time and human nature.
Ancient text read with contemporary Greek pronunciation. Book 2 of 8. (Summary by olorou)
  • Target completion date: --
  • Text source (only read from this text!):

    volume 1 (containing books 1-4) :: http://archive.org/details/thucydideshisto01hudegoog
    volume 2 (containing books 5-8) :: http://archive.org/details/thucydideshisto00hudegoog
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    BC Admin
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    This paragraph is temporary and will be replaced by the MC with the list of sections and reader (Magic Window) once this project is in the admin system.
    • Link to author on Wikipedia (if available): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thucydides
    • Link to title on Wikipedia (if available): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Peloponnesian_War
    • Number of sections (files) this project will have: 14
    • Does the project have an introduction or preface [y/n]: no
    • Original publication date (if known):
    • If you are a new volunteer, how would you like your name (or pseudonym) credited in the catalog? olorou
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    ancient-texts, history

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    Θουκυδίδης; Ολόρου; Ιστορίαι; Αθήναι; Πελοποννησιακός; Πόλεμος; Αρχαία; Ελληνικά; Thoukydides; Olorou; Histories; Peloponnesian; War; Athens; Ancient; Greek
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Post by olorou »

I have uploaded the second book.

http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/arb/histories2_01_thucydides.mp3
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/arb/histories2_02_thucydides.mp3
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/arb/histories2_03_thucydides.mp3
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/arb/histories2_04_thucydides.mp3
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/arb/histories2_05_thucydides.mp3
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/arb/histories2_06_thucydides.mp3
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/arb/histories2_07_thucydides.mp3

I did some corrections to the first one. How are files to be replaced on the server? There are some wrong tags on some of the files of the second book I uploaded too.

I wasn't satisfied with the outcome of my efforts at cleaning the files of the first book. It seemed to distort the voice. The initial recording seemed more accurate. I tried several things in the second. Listen and tell me if it is any better.
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Post by annise »

Hi - you are fast :D
Just replce files with the same name . I can fix ID tags as long as the Magic Window is right so don't re upload just for that
Upload the file with the same name - the uploader is set up so that the old file is renamed (it adds the year, month date and time to the name so we can have many copies of the file but the latest one is the right name.

I guessed the number of sections - can add or subtract if needed

Anne

Do you have an uncleaned file you could upload so I could try the noise cleaning to see if there is someting different you could be doing - just to same folder - you could add something to show it was not cleaned - uc at the end (before the .mp3) for uncleaned or something ?

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Post by Rapunzelina »

Oh, cool! I will download and proof-listen for other kinds of problems, and in the meantime, I hope we can solve the issue with the noise-cleaning.

Which software are you using olorou? Audacity 1.2 is known not to perform a very clean noise-removal.
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Notes for Sections 01 and 02: the end silence is missing. Album tag is "Histories" instead of "Histories Book 2".
(will come back later for the next sections)

The background noise is still discernible but less than before, though still more discernible between joined recordings (stop-and-starts). That's maybe because the different clips had different levels of background noise, so the noise-cleaning could not wipe out the background noise from all clips. So whatever you did, made a difference :)

ETA:
Notes for Sections 03 and 04: the end silence is missing. Album tag is "Histories" instead of "Histories Book 2".
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Post by annise »

moving this to going Solo

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Notes for:
Sections 05 and 06: 5-second end silence missing
Section 07: PL-OK!
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Post by olorou »

annise wrote: you are fast
Lots of free time!
I am otherwise un-employed ... ha ha
:)
Rapunzelina wrote: Which software are you using olorou?
Adobe Soundbooth CS3
I'm not so familiar with it or any audio editing software for that matter.
There are two main issues in my recordings: low frequencies from my voice and ambient noise. The one is caused by my own voice, the other by the environment. The first I try to attenuate by some sort of "parametric equalizer", which the software provides and gives me the ability to filter out unwanted frequencies. It prooves to help with the noise issue aswell. The special noise cleaning filters that the program provides didn't prove so useful. I get an effect of "speaking through a tube".
It would be splendid, if someone in the community could point me in the right direction here.
Rapunzelina wrote: The background noise is still discernible but less than before, though still more discernible between joined recordings (stop-and-starts). That's maybe because the different clips had different levels of background noise, so the noise-cleaning could not wipe out the background noise from all clips. So whatever you did, made a difference
Yes I try several things, not the same for one matter and for another the ambient noise is not always the same.
annise wrote: Do you have an uncleaned file you could upload so I could try the noise cleaning to see if there is someting different you could be doing - just to same folder - you could add something to show it was not cleaned - uc at the end (before the .mp3) for uncleaned or something ?
I uploaded a couple of clips. One of raw recording, the other edited.
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/tests/histories3__thucydides_01_raw_002.mp3
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/tests/histories3__thucydides_01_raw_002_hi_lo_pass_clicks_noise.mp3
Filtered away rumble, clicks and noise.
You will notice my main concern, the rumble caused by lower frequencies from my voice. That was the first thing I attempted to do away with. The higher frequency noises didn't bother me so much, they actually give a more "natural", clear tone to the recording.

From my point of view, as these recordings are meant to be listened to for the sake of the text read, meaning, intelligibility is the topmost priority. A better tone, colour, expression I couldn't provide I'm afraid (besides the author's style is intentionally and characteristically 'dry' - he intended to be matter of fact, to stick to the facts, but in his own very special personal way), therefore I don't even try. I notice the weak spots of my speach, pronunciation, speed and try to fix them as much as possible. I will keep looking for some better software fine tuning, but I cannot guarantee anything. My point is that if someone can get a sufficient understanding of the book, that will fulfill the purpose of this audio book. If willing, anyone can edit the audio files or tune one's audio gear to one's liking. And hopefully other people, better able and qualified might decide to attempt something better in the time to come with this book.
Rapunzelina wrote: Notes for Sections 03 and 04: the end silence is missing. Album tag is "Histories" instead of "Histories Book 2".
- I don't see any silence missing. Maybe it is to be made longer.
- Yes I noticed my mistake while uploading but wasn't sure what to do. annise suggested something and I will have it in mind in the future.


I began on the third book.
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Post by annise »

I have asked about your software here

viewtopic.php?p=733929#p733929


Book 3 is here
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=39747

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Post by olorou »

Much obliged.
:oops:
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olorou wrote:
Rapunzelina wrote: Notes for Sections 03 and 04: the end silence is missing. Album tag is "Histories" instead of "Histories Book 2".
- I don't see any silence missing. Maybe it is to be made longer.
- Yes I noticed my mistake while uploading but wasn't sure what to do. annise suggested something and I will have it in mind in the future.

I began on the third book.
Sections 1-6 that are uploaded now have no more than 1-2 seconds of silence in the end, but it is advisable to have at least 5 seconds for recordings up to 30 minutes and 10 seconds for longer recordings, because some media players tend to cut the files they're playing off at the end.
I'd be happy to add the end silence and re-upload, to let you work on book 3 :) I see that you're getting some nice suggestions about the sound adjustments, so everything's going great :thumbs:
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Post by Rapunzelina »

I just uploaded Sections 1 to 6 with the added 5-sec end silence. I think Book 2 is also ready :)
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I'll do book 1 and we will all check it out to see if we want to tweak anything before I start on this

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Post by annise »

All tweaked thank you both :clap: :clap: 2 down 6 to go and we already have a grateful listener

Anne

This project is now complete! All audio files can be found on our catalog page: http://librivox.org/histories-book-2-by-thucydides/
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