[COMPLETE] Plato's Republic tr B. Jowett km

jwads · Post by **jwads** » December 27th, 2008, 2:47 pm

Thanks! I'll clean that up.

I would also love to know if you have any suggestions for me in the style of reading?

JimTheActor · Post by **JimTheActor** » December 30th, 2008, 1:10 pm

Hello Karen, Leni, Illiterati, and all the good readers:

While you guys were working hard on Plato's Republic, I was off for Christmas vacation! (And we got to 100% claimed! Excellent!) It was fun, but now I'm back.

I uploaded two files. One was a corrected version of section 12, at: http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_12_plato.mp3

The time is still 20 minutes even, 19.21 MB.

The other was section 13, at 19:20, 18.56 MB. Location: http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_13_plato.mp3

Looking forward to hearing from you, Illiterati!

kmerline · Post by **kmerline** » December 30th, 2008, 3:44 pm

Thank you, everyone, you are doing an exceptional job!

JimTheActor · Post by **JimTheActor** » December 30th, 2008, 10:10 pm

OK, I uploaded the last of my assignments, part 14, to the normal location: http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_14_plato.mp3

Time 21:28, size 20.60 MB.

Over to you, Illiterati.

Post by **Leni** » January 2nd, 2009, 9:46 am

Hi there Jim

Thanks for the sections, the MW is updated.

GeoffreyEdwards · Post by **GeoffreyEdwards** » January 3rd, 2009, 10:12 pm

Hi. I completed Section 36. It is 17:41 long and 16.5 MB. It is located at:
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_36_plato.mp3

Illiterati · Post by **Illiterati** » January 3rd, 2009, 11:44 pm

PL 13 & 14.

In 13 at 06:02 no, nor a madder read as no, not a matter.

In 14 at 03.02 unseasonable read as unreasonable. In ID3 the track is numbered 13, should be 14.

Thank you, Jim, for your contributions to this book. Hope to hear more of you soon!

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Illiterati · Post by **Illiterati** » January 4th, 2009, 1:52 am

PL 36 perfect! Thank you, Purifier.

I find the accuracy of Plato's description of a tyrannical man in sections 35 and 36 a bit amazing having read couple of books on Josef Stalin and his times last year.

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JimTheActor · Post by **JimTheActor** » January 4th, 2009, 3:18 pm

OK, I have uploaded corrected versions of parts 13 and 14 to the usual places: http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_13_plato.mp3 and http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_14_plato.mp3 .

Good catch on unreasonable vs. unseasonable. I thought (and still think) that unreasonable actually makes sense: when a cunning and suspicious man is in the company of good men, his suspicions are "unreasonable", meaning that there is no reason for them among this group of men. But what Plato appears to be saying is slightly different: his suspicions are "unseasonable", that is, not appropriate to his current "season" (we would say "situation"), being among honest men. Unlike "unreasonable", the word "unseasonable" implies that there is an appropriate time for his suspicions (when he is among his own kind), just not the present. In the same sense, freezing weather in June (in the northern hemisphere) is unseasonable; there is a proper season for it, just not now.

Given all that, the word "unseasonable" appears so uncommonly in print that I don't feel bad missing it!

Thanks, Illiterati, for your discerning and careful proof-listening. I'll be interesting in listening to this book when it is complete.

kmerline · Post by **kmerline** » January 4th, 2009, 3:41 pm

Again, this is going so well! Thank you everyone!

Illiterati · Post by **Illiterati** » January 4th, 2009, 3:52 pm

JimTheActor wrote:Good catch on unreasonable vs. unseasonable. I thought (and still think) that unreasonable actually makes sense: when a cunning and suspicious man is in the company of good men, his suspicions are "unreasonable", meaning that there is no reason for them among this group of men. But what Plato appears to be saying is slightly different: his suspicions are "unseasonable", that is, not appropriate to his current "season" (we would say "situation"), being among honest men. Unlike "unreasonable", the word "unseasonable" implies that there is an appropriate time for his suspicions (when he is among his own kind), just not the present. In the same sense, freezing weather in June (in the northern hemisphere) is unseasonable; there is a proper season for it, just not now.

Well, my thoughts exactly. And since it arguably DOES change the meaning I decided to put it in there, mostly because I did really not know what to do about it.

But I was really being a bit picky there, I admit that. My defense is that I try to put as much effort to this as I find the readers are doing.

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Sibella · Post by **Sibella** » January 5th, 2009, 1:49 pm

18.04 - http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_19_plato.mp3

kmerline · Post by **kmerline** » January 5th, 2009, 4:24 pm

Thank you, Sibella.

Sibella · Post by **Sibella** » January 5th, 2009, 5:01 pm

17.53 - http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_20_plato.mp3

Sibella · Post by **Sibella** » January 5th, 2009, 6:57 pm

18.17 - http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/km/republic_21_plato.mp3