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Post by AnaNaumoska » July 30th, 2020, 6:52 am

Za makedonckite raboti / За македонцките работи by Krste Petkov Misirkov (1874 - 1926).


A book concerning the principals of the Macedonian language written in central Macedonian dialects as well as the need for a Macedonian national recognition.
Книга која ги претставува принципите и погледите во однос на македонското прашање, јазик и национален идентитет како и потребата од признавањето на Македонската нација.
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  • Text source (only read from this text!): http://drmj.manu.edu.mk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/0005-Za-makedonckite-raboti.pdf
  • Type of proof-listening required (Note: please read the PL FAQ): standard



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    Magic Window:



    BC Admin ===========================================
    This paragraph is temporary and will be replaced by the MC with the list of sections and reader (Magic Window) once this project is in the admin system.
    • Project Code: 6hiCb6hL
    • Link to author on Wikipedia (if available): (Krste Petkov Misirkov) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krste_Misirkov
    • Link to title on Wikipedia (if available): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Macedonian_Matters
    • Number of sections (files) this project will have: 6
    • Does the project have an introduction or preface [y/n]: Yes
    • Original publication date (if known): 1903
    • If you are a new volunteer, how would you like your name (or pseudonym) credited in the catalog? AnaNaumoska Do you have a URL you would like associated with your name?:
    ============================================

    Genres for the project: *Non-fiction/Writing & Linguistics

    Keywords that describe the book: macedonian language

    ============================================
  • The reader will record the following at the beginning and end of each file:
    No more than 0.5 to 1 second of silence at the beginning of the recording!
    START of recording (Intro):
    • "Section [number] of Za makedonckite raboti / За македонцките работи. This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information, or to volunteer, please visit: librivox DOT org"
    • If you wish, say:
      "Recording by [your name], [city, your blog, podcast, web address]"
    • Say:
      "Za makedonckite raboti / За македонцките работи, by Krste Petkov Misirkov. [Section]"


    НА ПОЧЕТОК НА ЗАПИСОТ (Вовед):
    " [Реден број] секција од [За македонцките работи]. Ова е запис на ЛибриВокс. Сите записи на ЛибриВокс се во јавниот домен. За повеќе информации, или да волонтирате, посетете ја либривокс ТОЧКА орг.."
    Ако сакате, кажете:
    "Чита [Вашето име], [место, подкаст, блог, веб страница]"
    Кажете:
    "[За македонцките работи] од [Крсте Петков Мисирков]. [Бројот на секцијата и наслов]"

    For the second and all subsequent sections, you may optionally use the shortened form of this intro disclaimer:
    • "Chapter [number] of Za makedonckite raboti / За македонцките работи by Krste Petkov Misirkov. This LibriVox recording is in the Public Domain."
    • If you wish, say:
      "Recording by [your name], [city, your blog, podcast, web address]"
    • Only if applicable, say:
      "[Chapter title]"
    " [Реден број] секција од [За македонцките работи] од [Крсте Петков Мисирков]. Ова е запис на ЛибриВокс. Сите записи на ЛибриВокс се во јавниот домен. "
    Ако сакате, кажете:
    "Чита [Вашето име], [место, подкаст, блог, веб страница]"
    Кажете:
    " [Бројот на секцијата и наслов]"

    END of recording:
    • At the end of the section, say:
      "End of [Chapter]"
    • If you wish, say:
      "Recording by [your name], [city, your blog, podcast, web address]"

      НА КРАЈОТ НА ЗАПИСОТ:

      На крајот на секцијата кажете:
      "Крај на [реден број] секција"
      Ако сакате, кажете:
      "Прочитано од [Вашето име], [место, подкаст, блог, веб страница]"
    • At the end of the book, say (in addition):
      "End of Za makedonckite raboti / За македонцките работи, by Krste Petkov Misirkov. "

    На крајот на книгата, додајте и:
    "Крај на книгата [За македонцките работи] од [Крсте Петков Мисирков]"
    There should be ~5 seconds silence at the end of the recording.
  • Example filename makedonckiteraboti_##_kpm_128kb.mp3 (all lower-case) where ## is the section number (e.g. makedonckiteraboti_01_kpm_128kb.mp3)
  • Transfer of files (completed recordings)
    Please always post in this forum thread when you've sent a file. Also, post the length of the recording (file duration: mm:ss) together with the link.
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      (If you have trouble reading the image above, please message an admin)
    • You'll need to select the MC, which for this project is: Rapunzelina
    • When your upload is complete, you will receive a link - please post it in this thread.
    • If this doesn't work, or you have questions, please check our How To Send Your Recording wiki page.

    Any questions?
    Please post below
Last edited by AnaNaumoska on July 31st, 2020, 7:56 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Post by Rapunzelina » July 30th, 2020, 9:14 am

Hi Ana! Let me MC this project.

I will go set it up!

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Post by Rapunzelina » July 30th, 2020, 9:30 am

Magic Window in place!

Since this is your first time coordinating your own project, let me know if there are any questions. This should cover information on how to update the magic Window: https://wiki.librivox.org/index.php?title=Soloists:_How_to_update_the_Magic_Window

Feel free to use an intro/outro disclaimer in Macedonian if you want, instead of English.
You can also add the Macedonian translation in the Project summary/description.

Do you have a proof-listener? If not, I could sign up for it.

AnaNaumoska
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Post by AnaNaumoska » July 30th, 2020, 9:36 am

Thank you Rapunzelina!
And no, I have no one to PL :( So if you'd like to do it, it'll be great!

Cheers,
Ana :mrgreen:


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Post by Rapunzelina » July 30th, 2020, 9:38 am

Oh, but you have me in this case :D

So we're ready to move on to Going Solo!

Take your time, ask if there are questions, and have fun! :clap:

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Post by AnaNaumoska » July 30th, 2020, 9:39 am

Yaaay! :9:

Thank you once again!
Ana :mrgreen:


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Post by AnaNaumoska » July 31st, 2020, 7:47 am

I thought this might come in handy for this project as well as any other potential volunteers reading in Macedonian:


Disclaimer in Macedonian language:


НА ПОЧЕТОК НА ЗАПИСОТ (Вовед):
" [Реден број] поглавје / секција од [насловот на книгата]. Ова е запис на ЛибриВокс. Сите записи на ЛибриВокс се во јавниот домен. За повеќе информации, или да волонтирате, посетете ја либривокс ТОЧКА орг.."
Ако сакате, кажете:
"Чита [Вашето име], [место, подкаст, блог, веб страница]"
Кажете:
"[Насловот на книгата] од [името и презимето на авторот]. [Бројот на секцијата/поглавјето и наслов (доколку го има)]"




За вториот и сите наредни записи, може да го користите скратениот disclaimer:

" [Реден број] поглавје / секција од [насловот на книгата] од [името и презимето на авторот]. Ова е запис на ЛибриВокс. Сите записи на ЛибриВокс се во јавниот домен. "
Ако сакате, кажете:
"Чита [Вашето име], [место, подкаст, блог, веб страница]"
Кажете:
" [Бројот на секцијата/поглавјето и наслов (доколку го има)]"




НА КРАЈОТ НА ЗАПИСОТ:

На крајот на поглавјето/секцијата кажете:
"Крај на [реден број] поглавје/секција"
Ако сакате, кажете:
"Прочитано од [Вашето име], [место, подкаст, блог, веб страница]"



На крајот на книгата, додајте и:
"Крај на книгата [наслов на книгата] од [име и презиме на авторот]"
Ana :mrgreen:


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Post by AnaNaumoska » July 31st, 2020, 10:52 am

The introduction is ready Rapunzelina!
Here's the link https://librivox.org/uploads/rapunzelina/makedonckiteraboti_00_kpm_128kb.mp3
It's duration is 20:55

I'll be awaiting your feedback!
Cheers,
Ana :mrgreen:


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Post by Rapunzelina » July 31st, 2020, 11:48 am

Hi Ana! I did not listen to the whole of the recording yet, because it sounded like you were reading from a different source.
I am following with the text, as I am not fluent in the language, and I noticed a few different words, for example:
at 1:02 you say "на општото добро", text has "на обшчата арнотиiа"
at 1:37 you say "земја" text has "страна"
So I first want to make sure that you are reading from a public domain text (public domain in the USA = published 1924 and earlier)

Your reading has a beautiful flow and it's pleasant to listen to, even though I do not understand 100% :mrgreen:

One suggestion about the intro, you say [section 1], but it's actually number 0 in the magic window. You could say "Предгоор" instead, and use [section 1, 2, etc] or [chapter 1, 2, etc] for the rest. Or we could change the numbering in the Magic Window to start from 1, if you'd prefer.

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Post by AnaNaumoska » July 31st, 2020, 12:37 pm

Hmmm, there must be some kind of a mix up. The text I provided dates 1903, which is the original publication date and is available on the front cover.

Let me check again, and see what has happened. Sorry for the inconvenience!
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Post by Rapunzelina » July 31st, 2020, 1:22 pm

Thanks!
Yes, the text source in the first post is OK. Did you read from that? It could be that the different wording is a slip of the tongue, but there were quite a few, that's why I ask, in case you're using another text source that has this different wording.

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Post by AnaNaumoska » August 1st, 2020, 1:26 am

Unfortunatelly, I have mixed up the files in my PC.
I re-recorded the foreword, and also corrected the intro, so now instead of "прва секција" I said "нулта секција".

So, the book is written in 1903 which is a turbulent year in the macedonian history. The Macedonian people were under Ottoman occupation for 5 centuries, and this is the year of the famous Ilinden uprising against the Turks. In this period, there is a massive oppression on Macedonians because they have no official country or government standing behind them and their needs, and all the neighbouring countries as well as the European forces (Russia and Austria-Hungary) as well as the Ottoman empire are trying to benefit from that. This section explains this factual situation and emphasizes the need of a national recognition and unification of the Macedonian people under the protection of the European forces. The author also urges the Macedonians to use the central-macedonian dialects as a basis for a macedonian language instead of using the languages of the neighboring countries. (The main issue here is that the Macedonian language hasn't been codified untill 1945, which is reason why we cannot find many public domain texts suitable for LV)

Anywayse, here's the new link
https://librivox.org/uploads/rapunzelina/makedonckiteraboti_00_kpm_128kb.mp3
The duration is 21:16.

Thank you for your time, and sorry for the earlier inconvenience! :9:

Best,
Ana :mrgreen:


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Post by Rapunzelina » August 1st, 2020, 10:44 am

I loved it! It is very well read, with feeling and soul.

I noticed a very very very slight repetition at 16:10 "оти" in case you'd like to perfect it

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Post by AnaNaumoska » August 1st, 2020, 11:32 am

Rapunzelina wrote:
August 1st, 2020, 10:44 am
I loved it! It is very well read, with feeling and soul.

I noticed a very very very slight repetition at 16:10 "оти" in case you'd like to perfect it

Thank you!
I cropped it:
https://librivox.org/uploads/rapunzelina/makedonckiteraboti_00_kpm_128kb.mp3

:9:
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Post by Rapunzelina » August 1st, 2020, 11:44 am

Marked PL OK in the Magic Window!

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