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Post by eggs4ears » September 29th, 2019, 4:18 am

Nada the Lily by H. Rider Haggard (1856 - 1925).


A classic tale of love and revenge set in the Zulu Kingdom of present-day KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa. A work of fiction loosely woven around actual historical events, Nada the Lily is unusual in the literature of the British empire for its cast of entirely black African characters. Narrated by Mopo, witch-doctor to the legendary Zulu king, Chaka, and featuring a spectral wolf pack and a cave that becomes a tomb, the novel continues in the spirit of the Alan Quatermain novels that made H. Rider Haggard the best-selling author of the nineteenth century. Nada the Lily was republished in the 1970s as the twentieth volume in the celebrated Newcastle Forgotten Fantasy Library, which included nine of Haggard's works. ( Phil Benson)
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    [*]Link to author on Wikipedia (if available): (H. Rider Haggard) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Rider_Haggard

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Keywords that describe the book: adventure, South Africa, kwazulu-natal

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Post by eggs4ears » September 29th, 2019, 4:20 am

Annise will MC, Newgatenovelist will DPL. First two sections ready to upload.

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Post by annise » September 29th, 2019, 5:22 am

MW awaiting thy sections :D

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Post by Newgatenovelist » September 29th, 2019, 10:35 am

Checking in! I have to confess I've not read this Haggard, so I'm curious about the book for its own sake and to see how it fits in with the other Newcastle titles.
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Post by eggs4ears » September 29th, 2019, 2:50 pm

Here we go!

https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/nada_00_haggard.mp3 - 24:15
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/nada_01_haggard.mp3 - 16:52

I'm curious too! I haven't read any Haggard at all. Interesting that we have only one recording of She (a collab from 2008), though apparently it is by far the best selling PD title ever!

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Post by annise » September 29th, 2019, 3:45 pm

We don't seem to have Haggard fans. I read most of them as a child - but I didn't like She much - maybe I was too young.

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Post by Newgatenovelist » October 1st, 2019, 1:37 pm

I remembered, very vaguely, that Umslopogaas was in this, but I'm looking forward to hearing more about his story. He pops up in at least one of the Allan Quatermain books - although the more I try to remember the details, the more I realise that my memory's pretty hazy!

A couple of the notes are for little omissions. The others are at your discretion, and they're about pronunciation. You've been consistent, which is the main thing! I wanted to ask where you found the pronunciation of Cetshwayo's name. Forvo says it's pending but currently unavailable, and I couldn't find it on howjsay using some of the more obvious variant spellings. The one I found on Oxford/Lexico is given below. That doesn't mean you have to use that one! I struggle with this - there are usually multiple possibilities, even before you throw in questions of how something might have been pronounced when the book was written or the action was set...


1.39-1.41, bottom half of first page of dedication
“Kill me if you wish, men of Cetywayo,
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/cetshwayo

2.41-2.43, p. viii, top half of page
Were not Cetywayo’s impis…
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/cetshwayo

3.14-3.16, footnote p. viii
Message from Cetywayo…
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/cetshwayo

5.14, omission of first line of translation in footnote, p. ix
Bayéte, Father, Chief of Chiefs!

11.37, omission, last para, mid-para, p. xiii
…primitive peoples, [as in the Volsunga Saga.]

16.08-16.10, p. 1, penultimate sentence first para
…and the uncle of Cetywayo.
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/cetshwayo

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Post by Newgatenovelist » October 3rd, 2019, 12:56 pm

Notes for chapter 1:

2.39-2.41, second sentence p. 6
…he lies in the breast of the old Stone [heard Sun] Witch…
[it might not make much difference, but I don’t know if this comes back later!]

10.56-10.57, p. 9 mid-page
…U’Cetywayo’s kraal.
[as before with pronunciation – changing this is totally up to you!]

14.20-14.24, bottom quarter p. 10
Do not the white men gather themselves together even now against U’Cetywayo…


Some of the power struggles and dynastic feuds that have already been hinted at seem positively Shakespearean. I'll be excited to see where this goes!

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Post by eggs4ears » October 8th, 2019, 4:36 am

Hi Anne,

I was looking at books that should come into PD in 2020 and I see Lord Dunsany's King of Elfland's Daughter is one of them. This will please Erin, I'm sure! What are the rules about this? Can I read it? And if so, can I start now?

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Post by annise » October 8th, 2019, 5:20 am

Yes it can be read but we won't accept it or set it up until the 1st January - and it will need a text source. At the top of the book suggestions there is a sticky giving the policy for 2019 and it will be the same for 2020, that's for LV though.
If you are recording in a death plus 70 country - he died in 1957 and I fear 1957+70+1 is 2028. Same in England. Canada would be OK though :D .

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Post by Newgatenovelist » October 8th, 2019, 8:21 am

Omygodomygodomygod, if you do it I want to PL! You were right, this is soooo on my list. I already have a hard copy of The Curse of the Wise Woman, which is an outstanding novel of his but which has a few more years before it's PD. Just saying!

There is a source for it at fadedpage:
https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?pid=20120938
but that does suggest that it's from a later American edition.

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Post by eggs4ears » October 16th, 2019, 3:19 am

Erin,

What are you pointing to in the pronunciation of Cetwayo? Is it the 'C' or something else? If it is the 'C', I am trying to do a click and my sources are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetshwayo_kaMpande (the Zulu pronunciation) and this lady on YouTube, who makes it all surprisingly simple - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCMj7da5Da4 - Of course, that is not to say I am doing it right!

I did a few recordings before I settled on the narrators voice and almost gave up! I don't want to attempt a Zulu English accent, but the linguist in me tells me I should try the clicks. I also feel I should use an old man voice and try to give an oral storytelling feel - hence the old man voice. Difficult, because I keep slipping back into my normal voice!

This is probably the most difficult book I've done, but I like a challenge!

Phil

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Post by Newgatenovelist » October 18th, 2019, 9:53 am

Hi Phil,

By all means, go with your gut and/or training. If the linguist in you wants to go for the clicks, and the narrator in you wants to use the voice you've been using, do it.

I liked that video, though I'm sure I'll have forgotten everything in it by the time I might be called upon to pronounce Zulu! The one I linked to had definitely been made easier for native speakers of English to pronounce. That doesn't mean it's right, or right for this project, just that it was the pronunciation on one of my go-to sources.

If it's any consolation, this is something I wrestle with with a lot of projects - go for the 'historical' pronuncation? The modern one? The English one? Attempt to say it in line with the local language even if I'm not very good? And when those all come together it can be hard to keep straight! There's an historical non-fiction book I have my eye on, but trying to navigate how the author would have pronounced things is a minefield. Maybe one day I'll gather my courage in both hands and do it, but for now I'm staying busy with other stuff!

For ease of reference, I'm putting the streamlined PL notes here:

Section 0

5.14, omission of first line of translation in footnote, p. ix
Bayéte, Father, Chief of Chiefs!

11.37, omission, last para, mid-para, p. xiii
…primitive peoples, [as in the Volsunga Saga.]

Section 1

2.39-2.41, second sentence p. 6
…he lies in the breast of the old Stone [heard Sun] Witch…
[it might not make much difference, but I don’t know if this comes back later!]

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Post by eggs4ears » October 24th, 2019, 5:00 pm

Chapter 00,01 corrected and uploaded. Chapters 2-5 ready for PL. Nice short chapters and lots of action. I'm enjoying reading this!

https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/nada_02_haggard.mp3 - 14:20
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/nada_03_haggard.mp3 - 11:57
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/nada_04_haggard.mp3 - 27:16
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/nada_05_haggard.mp3 - 13:02

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Post by Newgatenovelist » October 26th, 2019, 5:59 am

Chapters 00 and 01 are spot PL OK. I'm on a visit to the UK for a few more days, but I'll be back to this next week!

Haggard does tend to gallop along. At least out of the selection I've read, there is always another action sequence around the corner. I'm glad to hear that this is following in that tradition!

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