Complete Celebrated Crimes v7, p1: Ali Pacha

[jvanstan]

Celebrated Crimes, Vol. 7: Part 1: Ali Pacha by Alexandre Dumas (1802 - 1870). Translated by George Burnham Ives (1856 - 1930)

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Ali Tepeleni, Pacha of Janina, rose to power during the early 1800s in one of the Ottoman Empire’s most unruly territories (Albania). His ferocious imposition of will was limitless, earning him the sobriquet of “the Lion of Janina.” As the mauling and murder of innocents sustains the lion, so did it sustain Ali Pacha’s rule. Thus, the range of celebrated crimes that Dumas describes in this essay are as vast as Ali Pacha’s ambition – an ambition rooted in his mother’s callous advice that “success justified everything, and everything is permissible to him who has the power to do it.” (jvanstan)

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Genres for the project: Fictional Biographies & Memoirs; *Non-fiction; *Non-fiction/True Crime

Keywords that describe the book: ottoman empire, ali tepeleni, pacha of janina, lion of janina, yanina, ali pasha of ioannina, pashalik of yanina, sultan mahmud ii

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Lynnet has requested to MC
Pattymarie has requested to PL
Thanks Lynne and Patty Marie!

[Lynnet]

All set up.
Have fun!

[pattymarie]

Got this book marked. Listening to the previous one tonight. I've been a bit selfishly working on my own project the past two days.

[jvanstan]

Hi Patty Marie,

I've started on this project - the first 6 sections are ready for PL Now I'll address the PL notes from Martin Guerre!

Hope all's well!
John

[pattymarie]

Got them. Will plunge in later this evening.

Lynne, could you advise me about pronunciation of some names in British history that I'm coming upon in my own project?
Just from your knowledge - don't go looking anything up - I've done that for each of them and either found nothing or found different pronunciations.
They are:

Mercadet, the officer of Richard the Lionhearted who reversed Richard's death bed clemency to the man who fatally shot him with an arrow and had the archer flayed alive after Richard died. French ('Mare kah day) or an anglicized pronunciation pretty much the way its spelled?

Hawise, the first wife of King John - the most common pronunciation on the net seems to be 'Hah - weis, but it isn't exclusive.

Simon de Montfort, French or anglicized pronunciation. The American form is Simon (as in "Simon says") de Mahntfert. I'm guessing the British would be more like Mauntfert unless they use the French pronunciation which I know. If the author would have written "of" instead of "de", I'd go with anglicized pronunciation, but that "de" makes me wonder.

Thanks

[Lynnet]

Got them. Will plunge in later this evening.

Lynne, could you advise me about pronunciation of some names in British history that I'm coming upon in my own project?
Just from your knowledge - don't go looking anything up - I've done that for each of them and either found nothing or found different pronunciations.
They are:

Mercadet, the officer of Richard the Lionhearted who reversed Richard's death bed clemency to the man who fatally shot him with an arrow and had the archer flayed alive after Richard died. French ('Mare kah day) or an anglicized pronunciation pretty much the way its spelled?

Hawise, the first wife of King John - the most common pronunciation on the net seems to be 'Hah - weis, but it isn't exclusive.

Simon de Montfort, French or anglicized pronunciation. The American form is Simon (as in "Simon says") de Mahntfert. I'm guessing the British would be more like Mauntfert unless they use the French pronunciation which I know. If the author would have written "of" instead of "de", I'd go with anglicized pronunciation, but that "de" makes me wonder.

Thanks

When in doubt, go for the Anglicized! I would say "Merr-ka-dette", "Har-wise" and Simon (as in Simple Simon) der "MonTferd" -- this one I'm 100% sure of The 't' is quite pronounced. And all the history books call him Simon de Montford, so I think the 'de' is authentic.
L.

[pattymarie]

Thank you, Lynne.

[pattymarie]

Sections 1 and 2 are PL OK.

1:14 exortion/extortion in the seventh line of the chapter " oppressing the inhabitants of the plains, who, groaning under both extortion and rapine,"

This has me laughing at both of us, and I wouldn't mention it if it were't right in the same sentence. You've used good French pronunciation of "rapine" and I've been mispronouncing it all my life as ('ray - pine). Here's Merriam Webster on the English pronunciation https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rapine Do whatever you want to with it.

edit: For consistency you might want to leave "rapine" alone because it re-occurs in section 5 at 12:13-14. I thought it was "exortion" that reoccurred and am still going to do a word search for it to be sure whether or not it crops up again somewhere.

[pattymarie]

Sections 5 and 6 are PL OK (unless you want to change "rapine" at 12:03 in section 5)

Section 4 20:58 exort/extort in the sentence spoken by Ali to the Greek "
"This accursed kapidgi-bachi has come hither bringing certain papers signed with my seal, intending to use them to my discredit, and thus to extort money from me. " Its a good bit past the half way mark of the chapter.

[jvanstan]

Thanks, Patty Marie,

I hadn't ever thought about how to pronounce "rapine" before! I think I'll keep it as is rather than trying to punch in to all the different sections. I did correct the extorts and such. Also, I added two more sections

All the best,
John

[pattymarie]

Sections 3, 4, 7, and 8 are PL OK.

[jvanstan]

Thanks, Patty Marie!

I just uploaded the remaining sections (9-11). Will start setting up the next project, Countess de Saint-Geran

Hope all's well!
John

Sections 3, 4, 7, and 8 are PL OK.

[Lynnet]

Put me down as MC for that please

And is she related to Agnes Sorel, Mademoiselle de Saint Geran? I just did a solo about her (but she was one of the 'good guys', not a criminal)

[pattymarie]

These three are downloading to my computer. Please put me down as dpl for the next project It's late right now and I'm busy all day tomorrow, but I'll get these listened to as quickly as possible.



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[pattymarie]

Sections 9, 10 and 11 are pl ok.