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Post by GillH » December 23rd, 2017, 12:02 pm

Spot PL Section 35
25:42 "to make move laughter" but there is no "make" in text: just "to move laughter". Do you want to re-correct this? Your choice.

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Post by Peter Why » December 23rd, 2017, 12:25 pm

Thank you, Gill, I've no idea how I made that slip-up. I've uploaded an edited version. I'm sorry for your extra download.

My next section will probably be next week, so happy Christmas to you.
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Post by GillH » December 24th, 2017, 2:55 am

Section 35 PL OK!
Merry Christmas. Have a good one.

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Post by Peter Why » December 27th, 2017, 3:55 pm

Thanks, Gill;

Here's section 36.

From "Of the Habits ...", PDF pages 236-240 / text pages 217-221

ERRATA in section 36:
All on text page 218
(7.56) 3rd line in last para, col 1, [... because a great amount of intelligence ...] for "because" read "although"
(8.01) 5th line in last para col 1, [...that no education, ...] for "no" read "an utter want of"
(10.52) last line in list of symbols, col 2, for "flummut" read "flummuxed"

***
There were a few sentences in this section that I didn't understand. I don't know whether it's because of typos, changes in the way some words are used, or simply my not being able to work out their grammar. I've read them to match the text, but I may have the emphasis wrong. Please do tell me if you spot any sentences where you know what Mayhew's trying to say and I've obviously got it wrong.

***

Total so far, approx. 23:02:37

Section 37 starts at "Of running patterers", col 2, p 221

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Post by GillH » December 29th, 2017, 6:19 am

PL notes for Section 36 Just two small points:
4:41 "smack" heard just before "reader's note" before the table p217
19:25 odd "croaking" noise just before "and if he knew you" p220 1st column, line 19 of "Of the Publishers..."

Everything else seemed fine to me.

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Post by Peter Why » January 1st, 2018, 3:03 am

Section 36 edited and uploaded. I'm not certain that I've fixed the croak at 19.25 (I just overwrote that patch of silence).

Thanks, Gill ... and a Happy New Year to you.

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Post by GillH » January 1st, 2018, 9:53 am

36 PL OK!
Happy New Year, Peter. Many blessings.

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Post by Peter Why » January 6th, 2018, 5:10 pm

Section 37 uploaded.
From "Of running patterers", col 2, p 221. PDF pages 240-241, 244-247 / text pages 221-226

Total so far, approx. 23:28:42

Next section starts at "Of the Chaunters", col 1, p 226

It was odd to hear the patterer mentioning a horrible murder at Chigwell Row ... which is less than half a mile away from me ... but I can't fiind any reference to it on the internet, as there's been a much more recent one (which I hadn't noticed at the time).

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Post by GillH » January 15th, 2018, 6:41 am

Hi, Peter.
I'm on holiday at the moment but should get to this at the weekend. Haven't heard of the murders, recent or otherwise. Hope you're not adversely affected.

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Post by GillH » January 19th, 2018, 6:15 am

Section 37 PL:
19:01- 04 repeat of "in his earliest days" p225 7th line

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Post by Peter Why » January 19th, 2018, 12:24 pm

Thanks, Gill, I've edited and re-uploaded section 37.

There was another 'orrible murder in Chigwell Row in 1887 (reported in a New Zealand paper!), and a more recent murder with an automatic gun by someone who lives in Chigwell. Nothing close to me, luckily.

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Post by GillH » January 19th, 2018, 8:43 pm

37 PL OK!
I suppose it's as well not to know about murders close by us. I enjoy fictional ones in detective stories but can't comprehmend someone deliberately taking another human life. Most of those mentioned seem to have been "mistakes" too.

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Post by Peter Why » January 21st, 2018, 11:58 pm

Me, too; I've often discussed it with my friends. Although some murders are understandable (spur of the moment rage, or the result of last-straw long build-up of abuse, for example) many seem to be for obscenely corrupt motives.

This is true for many crimes; it's hard to imagine the mental patterns that could lead to them. I read Clarence Darrow's book on the criminal mind for Librivox a while ago, but can't remember much about it now. I was impressed by his discussion of the reasoning that leads to crime, but I was a bit put off by the way he presented his opinions as facts ... which I felt was very much a result of his profession as a lawyer.

Section 38 uploaded. From "Of the Chaunters", PDF 247-251 / text 226-230

Total so far, approx. 23:58.21

Section 39 is from Of the Sellers of Second Editions, PDF 251 / text230

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Post by GillH » January 24th, 2018, 9:58 am

PL for Section 38:
[08:19 loud bump - end of 7th line form bottom of 1st column p227]
12:08-09 repeat of "he shed" p228 7th line of first verse quoted;
23:12 "arrives" said for "strives" (in vain...) p229 2nd column about halfway

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Post by Peter Why » January 24th, 2018, 12:24 pm

Thanks, Gill; section 38 edited and uploaded.
Peter
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