[COMPLETE] Charles Simeon, by Handley Carr Glyn Moule - tg

[InTheDesert]

I regret to inform you that Chapter 8 is going to take a bit more work.

22:17 text is missing after "Duchesse de Broglie" (line 6, p 124 of book (153 of document)) - up to "The Earl of Hardwick" (end of line 16, p 127, of book (156 of document)).

Let me know if I am not clear enough.

Thanks,

M

Not sure how that happened. I definitely remember reading that section. Spot check starts at 22:17.

[mleigh]

I regret to inform you that Chapter 8 is going to take a bit more work.

22:17 text is missing after "Duchesse de Broglie" (line 6, p 124 of book (153 of document)) - up to "The Earl of Hardwick" (end of line 16, p 127, of book (156 of document)).

Let me know if I am not clear enough.

Thanks,

M

Not sure how that happened. I definitely remember reading that section. Spot check starts at 22:17.

A couple of observations on the added recording. You have done two things differently here than in the rest of the recordings completed for the book thus far. (1) In references to Bible references, here you have said "chapter #, verse, verse #" while elsewhere it is just "chapter #, verse #". (2) Using terms "quote" and "end quote".

I am not going to ask that you change this unless you want to but the added text ends in the middle of a quote so it should have an "end quote" added at the end of the paragraph at 28:36.

Thanks,

M

[InTheDesert]

A couple of observations on the added recording. You have done two things differently here than in the rest of the recordings completed for the book thus far. (1) In references to Bible references, here you have said "chapter #, verse, verse #" while elsewhere it is just "chapter #, verse #". (2) Using terms "quote" and "end quote".

I am not going to ask that you change this unless you want to but the added text ends in the middle of a quote so it should have an "end quote" added at the end of the paragraph at 28:36.

Thanks,

M

Good catch - the sections you have listened to were recorded a long time ago and since then I've slightly changed my approach to quotes. The verse verse thing is an editing error and will be fixed, along with the "end quote"!

[InTheDesert]

A couple of observations on the added recording. You have done two things differently here than in the rest of the recordings completed for the book thus far. (1) In references to Bible references, here you have said "chapter #, verse, verse #" while elsewhere it is just "chapter #, verse #". (2) Using terms "quote" and "end quote".

I am not going to ask that you change this unless you want to but the added text ends in the middle of a quote so it should have an "end quote" added at the end of the paragraph at 28:36.

Thanks,

M

I listened through it again and could find any doubled "verse verse" but the spot check for "end quote" is at 28:36.

[mleigh]

A couple of observations on the added recording. You have done two things differently here than in the rest of the recordings completed for the book thus far. (1) In references to Bible references, here you have said "chapter #, verse, verse #" while elsewhere it is just "chapter #, verse #". (2) Using terms "quote" and "end quote".

I am not going to ask that you change this unless you want to but the added text ends in the middle of a quote so it should have an "end quote" added at the end of the paragraph at 28:36.

Thanks,

M

I listened through it again and could find any doubled "verse verse" but the spot check for "end quote" is at 28:36.

I see that my notes were as clear as mud. What I was attempting to say was that in that section you used the word "verse" but hadn't anywhere else, e.g., "Mark 1 verse 1" instead of saying "Mark 1 1", but I wasn't overly worried just wanted to alert you to it.

Anyway, this chapter is PL OK.

M

[InTheDesert]

Ah, ok. I say verse when it's a verse range it when the verse number could be interpreted as a chapter number.

[InTheDesert]

A few more are there.

[mleigh]

Chapter 9:

3:47 should be "October 1797", I hear "October 1779"
25:34 repeated text: He met the ship in the Thames, he received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him." followed by "he quote received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him. end quote"

A question, so I can get it straight in my mind, At 26:28/27:08 and 27:39/29:00, for example, you do not use "quote/end quote" . What makes you decide whether or not to include their usage?

Thanks,

M

[InTheDesert]

A question, so I can get it straight in my mind, At 26:28/27:08 and 27:39/29:00, for example, you do not use "quote/end quote" . What makes you decide whether or not to include their usage?

My general principles are:

• I try to have as few quotes as possible while never wanting to be confusing. If a listener can deduce that it's quote (because a 3rd person narrator starts saying "I", has introduced it explicitly as a quotation or it's in the body of a letter etc.) I'll leave it out. (Example: Mary and Francis refused to ratify the late measures—a fact, says Knox, "we little regarded or do regard."_
• I don't quote biblical passages.
• I don't quote when it's not clear who the speaker is. (Eg: it is in fact the draft of a "republic," under which a nation should live its life on earth and prepare itself for heaven / There could not be a more memorable illustration of the saying that "events sometimes mount the saddle and ride men.")
• I always quote things that last more than one sentence because otherwise it would be unclear where the quotation ended.
• I usually don't quote fragments within a sentence because it makes the sentence hard to understand as a listener if there's a "quote unquote" interrupting it before the end. I tend not to if the words would make sense as either the writer or a quote (example: The reply of Elizabeth was that "presently she was not disposed to marry.")
• I always quote when I think a listener will be confused.
• I always quote when I get the impression that the author would could not endorse the sentiment in the quote because I don't want to put words in their mouth (A large number of the nobles and barons, however, signed the Book as being "good and conformable to God's Word in all points")

26:28/27:08 and 27:39/29:00 are both the first principle.

Hope that assuages your concerns! If at any point you think that something is unclear, tell me and I'll add quotations.

I'll work on the edits soon.

[InTheDesert]

Chapter 9:

3:47 should be "October 1797", I hear "October 1779"
25:34 repeated text: He met the ship in the Thames, he received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him." followed by "he quote received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him. end quote"

Spot checks with new timings
03:43 should be "October 1797", I hear "October 1779"
25:34 repeated text: He met the ship in the Thames, he received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him." followed by "he quote received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him. end quote"

[mleigh]

Chapter 9:

3:47 should be "October 1797", I hear "October 1779"
25:34 repeated text: He met the ship in the Thames, he received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him." followed by "he quote received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him. end quote"

Spot checks with new timings
03:43 should be "October 1797", I hear "October 1779"
25:34 repeated text: He met the ship in the Thames, he received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him." followed by "he quote received the dear treasure, and set off for Cambridge with him. end quote"

Section 9 and section 10 are both PL OK.

M

[InTheDesert]

2 more sections are there.

[mleigh]

2 more sections are there.

Chapters 11 and 12 are PL OK.

[mleigh]

Chapter 13 has one small "quote" needed at the beginning of a quote.

The quote goes from 1:35-2:45 and reads "My dear brother...feel their way". It has an "end quote" but no "quote" at 1:35.

The rest is good.

[InTheDesert]

Chapter 13 has one small "quote" needed at the beginning of a quote.

The quote goes from 1:35-2:45 and reads "My dear brother...feel their way". It has an "end quote" but no "quote" at 1:35.

The rest is good.

Spot check at 1:35