[COMPLETE]John Bull's Vineyard by Hubert de Castella -ans
Part 3 ready for PL!
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_03_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 20:09
Moving on from diseases of the grape... Are Sauvignon and Savignon different grapes, or is Savignon just the Australian pronunciation?
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_03_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 20:09
Moving on from diseases of the grape... Are Sauvignon and Savignon different grapes, or is Savignon just the Australian pronunciation?
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Oh dear! This is not the book for you, then. Though in my defence, I did select it more as an interesting piece of colonial history, than I did for the wine Hopefully, it won't take too long, as I'm keen to get back to Couperus, which I've started to record.
Here comes Part 4 - https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_04_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 20:37
Also Part 3 is re-uploaded at 128kbps - the setting was left over from another project. It does make quite a difference to the file size.
Here comes Part 4 - https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_04_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 20:37
Also Part 3 is re-uploaded at 128kbps - the setting was left over from another project. It does make quite a difference to the file size.
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Section 3 is spot PL OK. Notes for section 4 below.
No worries about the booziness. This book has a lot to say (from the author's very specific perspective) about European economic pressures and emigration, colonial land dispossession and environmental alteration/introduction of non-native species. You may end up with more listeners who are climate scientists than people who like a tipple!
2.45-2.48, bottom p 71
Mrs. Trouette, who, thirty-three [heard thirty] years before...
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9.22-9.31, pp 77-78, omission
In a few words, true and simple, [he said] that it was by her great virtues that the Queen had endeared herself to so many peoples...
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10.23, bottom para p 78, omission
To the Vine which gives prosperity, [which makes men sober and kind,] which engenders sociability...
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175035187866&view=1up&seq=94&skin=2021
No worries about the booziness. This book has a lot to say (from the author's very specific perspective) about European economic pressures and emigration, colonial land dispossession and environmental alteration/introduction of non-native species. You may end up with more listeners who are climate scientists than people who like a tipple!
2.45-2.48, bottom p 71
Mrs. Trouette, who, thirty-three [heard thirty] years before...
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175035187866&view=1up&seq=87&skin=2021
9.22-9.31, pp 77-78, omission
In a few words, true and simple, [he said] that it was by her great virtues that the Queen had endeared herself to so many peoples...
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175035187866&view=1up&seq=93&skin=2021
10.23, bottom para p 78, omission
To the Vine which gives prosperity, [which makes men sober and kind,] which engenders sociability...
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175035187866&view=1up&seq=94&skin=2021
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Part 5 is ready for PL...
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_05_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 24:10
I have also uploaded Part 4. In the interests of getting this finished, let's leave it at 'thirty years before'. It may be a few weeks before I can make corrections that need rerecording and it doesn't really affect the sense of the text. The other two omissions were fine - I cut them out of the original when editing so I could easily put them back in
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_05_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 24:10
I have also uploaded Part 4. In the interests of getting this finished, let's leave it at 'thirty years before'. It may be a few weeks before I can make corrections that need rerecording and it doesn't really affect the sense of the text. The other two omissions were fine - I cut them out of the original when editing so I could easily put them back in
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No worries. PL notes are there for your final decision. Some of what I note wouldn't be noticed under standard PLing, so it's up to you! On that note, I noticed one thing with section 5 because I was reading along. If you think it's worth changing, fine, if not, then switch the MW to say PL OK. Carry on!
15.00-15.02, p 104
...good wines, perfectly neutral [heard natural], full of flavor...
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15.00-15.02, p 104
...good wines, perfectly neutral [heard natural], full of flavor...
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Part 6 ready for PL!
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_06_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 20:47
I will make that change to Part 5 this weekend
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_06_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 20:47
I will make that change to Part 5 this weekend
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One pronunciation note for part 6. As with the last section, it's optional - it's not an enormous difference, but sometimes you have re-recorded for less.
13.12-13.16, bottom p 127
...and also precipitates a portion of the albuminous matter.”
https://www.lexico.com/definition/albuminous
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13.12-13.16, bottom p 127
...and also precipitates a portion of the albuminous matter.”
https://www.lexico.com/definition/albuminous
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175035187866&view=1up&seq=143&skin=2021
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Part 6 uploaded with correction to 'albuminous' - another word I may never say again!
And Part 7, ready for PL.
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_07_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 23:17
And Part 7, ready for PL.
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_07_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 23:17
And also Part 8, ready for PL
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_08_decastella_128kb.mp3
Interesting in the last chapter in this file that he describes 'light' wine as being less than 26 degrees proof - wines today are usually around 11-14 degrees, which means that either the scale of measurement changed at some point or they liked their wine strong in the 19th century!
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_08_decastella_128kb.mp3
Interesting in the last chapter in this file that he describes 'light' wine as being less than 26 degrees proof - wines today are usually around 11-14 degrees, which means that either the scale of measurement changed at some point or they liked their wine strong in the 19th century!
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Part 6 is spot PL OK. Yeah, albuminous is probably used all the time if you're talking about wine or photography, and absolutely never otherwise!
As to the strength of wine in the 19th century, I couldn't say with any certainty. I have read (and I'm struggling to recall where now!) that not all bottles sizes were standardised in England - couldn't speak for Australia - as they are now. Now you go to the shop and get a standard 750ml bottle of red or white and it's what we've come to expect, but if I am remembering correctly that some bottles were smaller, perhaps it makes a kind of sense if the wine was stronger. Otherwise, imagine how hard a modern-sized bottle would hit you!
As to the strength of wine in the 19th century, I couldn't say with any certainty. I have read (and I'm struggling to recall where now!) that not all bottles sizes were standardised in England - couldn't speak for Australia - as they are now. Now you go to the shop and get a standard 750ml bottle of red or white and it's what we've come to expect, but if I am remembering correctly that some bottles were smaller, perhaps it makes a kind of sense if the wine was stronger. Otherwise, imagine how hard a modern-sized bottle would hit you!
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Hard-nosed pronunciation note for section 7:
10.36-10.40, bottom p 146
...distinguished from each other by lighter shades of bistre.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/bistre
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On the subject of the strength of these wines, how often were they used in what would now be called mixed drinks or cocktails, like punch? Perhaps if mixed or diluted they wouldn't have been so potent - maybe?
10.36-10.40, bottom p 146
...distinguished from each other by lighter shades of bistre.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/bistre
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175035187866&view=1up&seq=164&skin=2021
On the subject of the strength of these wines, how often were they used in what would now be called mixed drinks or cocktails, like punch? Perhaps if mixed or diluted they wouldn't have been so potent - maybe?
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Thanks, I will be able to do corrections that require recording this weekend. This includes one for Chapter 9 below - at around 18:50 I have made a bit of a mess of 'cloister of verdure'
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_09_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 27:23
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/johnbull_09_decastella_128kb.mp3 - 27:23
Maybe. But watch out for his claim - coming up - that drinking wine actually makes you sober!Newgatenovelist wrote: ↑May 25th, 2022, 5:48 am On the subject of the strength of these wines, how often were they used in what would now be called mixed drinks or cocktails, like punch? Perhaps if mixed or diluted they wouldn't have been so potent - maybe?
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Whoops, you were quick and slipped another one in while I was PLing! Pronunciation for part 8 below.
4.01-4.14, pp 163-164
Tokai, which is one of the names we are blamed for assuming, is the abbreviation adopted in Australia to designate the Furmint-Tokai, the grape from which the celebrated Tokai wine is made.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/tokay
4.01-4.14, pp 163-164
Tokai, which is one of the names we are blamed for assuming, is the abbreviation adopted in Australia to designate the Furmint-Tokai, the grape from which the celebrated Tokai wine is made.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/tokay
Somehow I'm not surprised. He's claimed wine will boost the economy, benefit your health and essentially do everything for you except file your taxes!
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