[NOT PD] The book of the Saints of the Ethiopian Church by Wallis E. Budge

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Post by ancientchristian » October 19th, 2020, 1:02 pm

The book of the Saints of the Ethiopian Church: a translation of the Ethiopic Synaxarium (Meskerem) by E. A. Wallis Budge (1857 - 1934).


This is a collection of the lives of the saints of the Ethiopian Orthodox church for the month of Meskerem (Sept 8 - Oct 11). ( ancientchristian)
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    • Link to author on Wikipedia (if available): (E. A. Wallis Budge) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._A._Wallis_Budge
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    • Original publication date (if known): 1928
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Post by TriciaG » October 19th, 2020, 4:38 pm

We can't use this text source, since it's been transcribed and doesn't give any indication of what edition was used for the transcription. See here for text source policies: https://wiki.librivox.org/index.php?title=Recording_%26_Text_Policies#Our_policy_on_text_sources:
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Post by ancientchristian » October 19th, 2020, 7:02 pm

Yes I see the problem. OK, I switched to a Google reference.

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Post by Availle » October 19th, 2020, 7:17 pm

The google book is a scan from 1928. It's not automatically public domain in the US (yet).
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Post by ancientchristian » October 20th, 2020, 5:00 am

My understanding was that if the author died > 70 years ago the work was off-copyright ... unless the copyright of the work was renewed. I don't see any evidence of the copyright being renewed for this book.

https://www.biblio.com/blog/2010/07/how-to-determine-if-a-book-is-in-the-public-domain/#

https://ccbjournal.com/articles/demystifying-the-public-domain-a-guide-to-copyright-duration

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Post by Availle » October 20th, 2020, 5:06 am

That's different types of copyright.

US copyright goes only by publication date: everything published >95 years ago is automatically public domain in the US. Published afterwards, it's complicated.

Since you're in Canada, they go by "death of the author": Everything written by an author who died >50 years ago is public domain in Canada (with possible exceptions like posthumous first publications).

LibriVox goes by US copyright (because that's where our files are), we also like our readers to respect copyright where they live as extra bonus :wink:

So, a book that has been published in 1928 is not (automatically) PD in the US and cannot be recorded for LV (yet). I am not commenting on the non-renewal stuff because I'm not an expert there (and not in the US either). Maybe some other admin can comment on this.
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Post by TriciaG » October 20th, 2020, 5:59 am

There is only one source we trust to do their due diligence on copyright renewals: Project Gutenberg. If a project is determined to have not been copyright renewed by them, then we at LV will accept it. That's the meaning behind item #2 in that text policy I linked to. ;)

Moving this to Book Suggestions for now, to keep the Launch Pad tidy. :)
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Post by knotyouraveragejo » October 20th, 2020, 6:11 am

The translator of this book was British, not American, and the book was published in England (Cambridge University Press). Therefore the following applies - (see https://copyright.cornell.edu/publicdomain)

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Published from 1925 through 1977. Solely published abroad, without compliance with US formalities or republication in the US, and not in the public domain in its home country as of 1 January 1996.

Copyright term in the U.S. is 95 years after publication date.

Wallis Budge died in 1934. Copyright term in England is 70 years after death of the author (or translator in this case) so this was not in the public domain in England on Jan 1, 1996. Therefore, this will not be PD in the U.S. until Jan 1, 2024.

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Post by ancientchristian » October 20th, 2020, 8:04 am

According to the title page it was published in London, New York, Toronto, Tokyo, etc. So I think this book was registered in the US. Cambridge University Press is a worldwide company.

I still think the key point is if the copyright was renewed, but I don't know how to check that.

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Post by TriciaG » October 20th, 2020, 8:41 am

And this is why we are careful with such works (those published 95 years or sooner). The copyright rules get very murky; what nationality was the author? Where was it first published? Was it published in the US within 30 days of the publication outside the US?

Because of such crazy rules, we rely on Gutenberg. If you want to explore getting PG copyright clearance for this work, here's the place to start: http://www.gutenberg.org/help/copyright.html
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Post by ancientchristian » October 20th, 2020, 11:58 am

Gutenberg makes it clear that it's pretty much impossible... OK, I'll set my alarm for for Jan 1, 2024.

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