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Post by KevinS » December 13th, 2019, 3:23 pm

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3549801&view=1up&seq=7

Hathitrust marks this as in the public domain. Who am I to argue with them?
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Post by KevinS » December 13th, 2019, 3:30 pm

I should add that I'm perfectly willing to wait until the new year. And, for that matter, I think I should defer to ScientificMethodist who has also expressed in interest in recording the work. But this is an interesting issue. I'm actually looking for an acceptable copy for SciMet as they are not yet easy to find.
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Post by TriciaG » December 13th, 2019, 3:38 pm

What's strange is that some of the volumes are full view, some are limited view: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000631995 (this is in volume 13).

Generally, HathiTrust knows their stuff, and if they say that edition is PD, we take their word for it.
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Post by KevinS » December 13th, 2019, 3:51 pm

Well, I'll wait til the new year and offer this to SciMet. I should add that the 1924 edition is problematic, but I don't think another edition comes up into the public domain for years and years. I'll be tucked away by then.
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Post by TriciaG » December 13th, 2019, 3:57 pm

Yeah, that's what I gathered from the Wikipedia article.
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Post by ScientificMethodist » December 15th, 2019, 12:15 am

KevinS wrote:
December 13th, 2019, 3:30 pm
I should add that I'm perfectly willing to wait until the new year. And, for that matter, I think I should defer to ScientificMethodist who has also expressed in interest in recording the work. But this is an interesting issue. I'm actually looking for an acceptable copy for SciMet as they are not yet easy to find.
Thanks, I'm definitely planning on this for my first solo project!

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Post by ScientificMethodist » December 15th, 2019, 4:28 pm

KevinS wrote:
December 13th, 2019, 3:30 pm
I should add that I'm perfectly willing to wait until the new year. And, for that matter, I think I should defer to ScientificMethodist who has also expressed in interest in recording the work. But this is an interesting issue. I'm actually looking for an acceptable copy for SciMet as they are not yet easy to find.
I found a very clean version of the 1924 edition here:

https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/m/melville/herman/billy/index.html

I downloaded the epub, and have begun preliminary preparation! 😉

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Post by TriciaG » December 15th, 2019, 4:31 pm

That one doesn't say what edition the text was taken from. It could have been a later edition which may have a different US copyright. So we won't be able to use the Adelaide version. :(
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Post by KevinS » December 15th, 2019, 4:34 pm

ScientificMethodist wrote:
December 15th, 2019, 4:28 pm
KevinS wrote:
December 13th, 2019, 3:30 pm
I should add that I'm perfectly willing to wait until the new year. And, for that matter, I think I should defer to ScientificMethodist who has also expressed in interest in recording the work. But this is an interesting issue. I'm actually looking for an acceptable copy for SciMet as they are not yet easy to find.
I found a very clean version of the 1924 edition here:

https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/m/melville/herman/billy/index.html

I downloaded the epub, and have begun preliminary preparation! 😉
Make certain you gain approval for your text. It must meet LV's standards and you must promise to use the approved text for your recording. When the new year arrives, I'll be very happy to serve as DPL but I think that's the extent we should discuss a future matter publicly. It's just not done here in regards to works not yet PD.

I'll be very happy to answer questions offline.
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Post by ScientificMethodist » December 15th, 2019, 4:35 pm

TriciaG wrote:
December 15th, 2019, 4:31 pm
That one doesn't say what edition the text was taken from. It could have been a later edition which may have a different US copyright. So we won't be able to use the Adelaide version. :(
Click on the "about" tab in my link, and you'll see it's 1924!

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Post by ScientificMethodist » December 15th, 2019, 4:37 pm

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/m/melville/herman/index.html

Scroll down and then click on Billy Budd, 1924.

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Post by TriciaG » December 15th, 2019, 4:43 pm

It says 1924, but that looks like the date the work was published, not the date of the edition they used.

If you click on the Mardi text, for example, the "title" page says, "The text is from the two-volume reprint of 1864." Billy Budd doesn't have such a note.
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Post by ScientificMethodist » December 15th, 2019, 5:45 pm

TriciaG wrote:
December 15th, 2019, 4:43 pm
It says 1924, but that looks like the date the work was published, not the date of the edition they used.

If you click on the Mardi text, for example, the "title" page says, "The text is from the two-volume reprint of 1864." Billy Budd doesn't have such a note.
Roger that. I'm happy to use the HathiTrust version identified above then. Is the understanding that HathiTrust is already PD? If so, then I'd like to launch now!

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Post by TriciaG » December 15th, 2019, 6:01 pm

Yes. If HathiTrust says an edition is PD in the USA, we trust them. :)
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Post by ScientificMethodist » December 15th, 2019, 6:05 pm

TriciaG wrote:
December 15th, 2019, 6:01 pm
Yes. If HathiTrust says an edition is PD in the USA, we trust them. :)
Awesome, thanks! I'll start work on the official project launch template!

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