Some Books that Aren't in the Public Domain (and why)

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Post by TriciaG » October 18th, 2016, 8:18 am

Kangaroo692 wrote:Can we use PG Australia ebooks for our recordings, if the ebook was clearly published before 1923?
Not usually, because we cannot usually tell what edition is used on PG Australia. It could be a later, copyrighted edition that was used to make the online text. If it's unclear, post it as a separate book suggestion thread and we can take a look at it.
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Post by Kangaroo692 » October 20th, 2016, 2:00 pm

Okay, another question:
We trust that Gutenberg does extensive copyright checking for their books. Does Google Books do this as well?

Here's what I'm looking at. It was clearly published after 1923, but it says "Public domain, Google-digitized.":
https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009090958

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Post by TriciaG » October 20th, 2016, 2:06 pm

Google does NO copyright checking, as far as I know.
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Post by Kangaroo692 » October 20th, 2016, 2:30 pm

I guess they don't have to, being such a big corporation they could easily settle lawsuits. :roll:

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Post by Availle » October 20th, 2016, 4:55 pm

Or nobody dares to touch them to begin with... :roll:

However, the link you have above is to the Hathi Trust, which is also an online library of sorts. We do trust them, I would say they are even more diligent that gutenberg (if that's even possible).

So, if the Hathi Trust says something is PD - again: in the US ONLY! - then it's fine for us to record. It does not matter where they got the scan from (and they always have scans), they do their own copyright checking.
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Post by Kangaroo692 » October 20th, 2016, 5:52 pm

Thank you Ava.

I think I may do that as either a Solo or Group project in the future, after some of the things I'm currently doing are complete.

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Post by takoshaq » October 30th, 2016, 8:00 pm

:help: is west side story in the public domain? we could do a switch read with that one!

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Post by Darvinia » October 30th, 2016, 8:09 pm

takoshaq wrote: :help: is west side story in the public domain? we could do a switch read with that one!
1957 so no, sorry. Way too new to be public domain
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Post by phileasfogg » January 4th, 2017, 10:45 am

Hey i´d like to know if this one is a valid source of texts
http://www.ellibrototal.com/ltotal/
they use Creative Commons 4.0
This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en
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Post by TriciaG » January 4th, 2017, 10:47 am

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en
I'd say no, because we don't share-alike. We release into the public domain with no restrictions (including the attribution and share-alike restrictions).
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Post by VfkaBT » January 4th, 2017, 11:58 am

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/53885

This James Curwood novel was just added to PG, published first in 1923. Is this the beginning of '23 books going into the public domain, or just a fluke?
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Post by TriciaG » January 4th, 2017, 12:08 pm

VfkaBT wrote:https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/53885

This James Curwood novel was just added to PG, published first in 1923. Is this the beginning of '23 books going into the public domain, or just a fluke?
Just a fluke. 1923 books will be PD on Jan 1, 2019. Only 2 more years! (Please, do not change the copyright laws!)
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Post by DACSoft » January 4th, 2017, 2:14 pm

Although copyrighted 1923 books, whose copyrights were properly registered and renewed become PD in 2019 (barring new regulations), this particular book falls under the following Copyright exception (classified as "Rule 6" PD books at PG):

Any book from 1923-1977 which was registered or first published in the U.S. with (copyright) notice, but the copyright was not renewed, is in the PD. PG requires much more research (than for pre-1923 books) to establish to their satisfaction that such a submission is PD before they approve a clearance request.

Note: I am not a lawyer, but I have requested clearance, and submitted ebooks to PG under Rule 6. <grin>

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Post by RDHaas » March 7th, 2017, 6:19 pm

Is it safe to say that all ebooks on Project Gutenberg are public domain and OK to record for Librivox?

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Post by kathrinee » March 7th, 2017, 6:23 pm

Yes, all books on gutenberg.org are public domain in the US, so they can be recorded for librivox! :D You should also make sure to follow the copyright laws of whatever country you live in.
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