Some Books that Aren't in the Public Domain (and why)

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Post by Cori » November 22nd, 2007, 8:59 am

All the books mentioned in this thread have been suggested at one time or another, but they aren't legal to record here at LibriVox -- to keep the forum tidy, I've made them into a list below, and put in the relevant copyright information.

This is not a complete list of books that have been suggested, but it does have some of the more often-requested titles.

All copyright info is my understanding of it, as it applies to LibriVox but I am not a lawyer, so please use this as guidance and do your own checking if desired. Also, it is all current as of November 2007, but that's not to say the law in the US won't change again. :roll:
Only US law is mentioned - read here for why.


1984 by George Orwell
First published in 1949, US copyright will expire in 2045. (Because Orwell died in 1950, this book is already out of copyright in some countries, including Canada and Australia. See link above for more about LibriVox geography, though!)

Animal Farm by George Orwell
First published in 1945, US copyright will expire in 2041.

Anne of Ingleside by Lucy Maud Montgomery
First published in 1939, copyright later renewed, US copyright will expire in 2035.

Anne of Windy Poplars by Lucy Maud Montgomery
First published in 1936, copyright later renewed, US copyright will expire in 2032.

Apache Wedding Prayer (poem) by Albert Maltz
Usually thought to be a traditional prayer, this poem has been written by Albert Maltz for the movie Broken Arrow, in 1950.

Anne of Windy Poplars by Lucy Maud Montgomery
First published in 1936, US copyright will expire in 2032.

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
First published in 1957, US copyright will expire in 2053.

Blue Castle by Lucy Maud Montgomery
First published in 1926, copyright renewed in 1954, US copyright will expire in 2022.

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
First published in 1932, US copyright will expire in 2028.

The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger
First published in 1951, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2044.

Cheaper By The Dozen by Frank Bunker Gilbreth, Jr. and Ernestine Gilbreth Carey
First published in 1948, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2044.

The Devil and Daniel Webster by Stephen Vincent Benet
First published in 1938, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2034.

Emily of New Moon by Lucy Maud Montgomery
First published in 1923, US copyright will expire in 2019.

Feynman Lectures On Physics by Richard Phillips Feynman
First published in 1962 (or 64?), copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2058 (or 60).

The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
First published in 1943, US copyright will expire in 2039.

The Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot
First published in 1943 and copyright renewed 1970. US copyright will expire in 2039. [Added by admin RuthieG]

Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig
First published in 2004, released electronically by the author under a Creative Commons license. US copyright expires 70 years after the death of the author. Note: It is available in audio format at achive.org: http://www.archive.org/details/free-culture-audiobook

Galactic Derelict by Andre Norton
First published in 1959, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2055. Author died in 2005, life+50 copyright expires in 2056 and life+70 expires in 2076.

The Godfather by Mario Puzo
First published in 1969, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2065.

Gospel of Judas
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060406/ts_nm/religion_judas_dc_2
Although this is an old document, the newly-published translations will be copyrighted, and so cannot be recorded here at LV until 70 years after the death of their translator.

The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
First published in 1925, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2021.

The Gulag Archipelago, by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
First published in 1973, US copyright will expire in 2069. (Translations published between '73 and '77 expire 95 years after publication date. Translations published in and after 1978 will be in the public domain until life of translator + 70 years. )

Holidays on Ice, by David Sedaris
First published in 1997, US copyright on this work will expire on Jan. 1 70 years after the death its the author.

Imajica by Clive Barker
First published in 1991, US copyright will expire 70 years after the death of its author.

The Inimitable Jeeves by P.G. Wodehouse
First published in 1923, US copyright will expire in 2019. Author died in 1975, life+50 copyright expires in 2026 and life+70 expires in 2046.

To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
First published in 1960, copyright later renewed, US copyright will expire in 2056.

Lady Chatterly's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
First published in 1928, US copyright will expire in 2024.

Last and First Men by Olaf Stapledon
First published in 1930, US copyright will expire in 2026.

Leave it to Psmith by P.G. Wodehouse
First published in 1924, US copyright will expire in 2020. Author died in 1975, life+50 copyright expires in 2026 and life+70 expires in 2046.

Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder
First published in 1935, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2031.

The Little Prince or, Le Petit Prince by Antoine de Saint Exupéry
First published in 1943, US copyright in the French text will expire in 2039. No translations can be in the public domain until after that date.

The Magic Garden by Gene Stratton Porter First published posthumously in 1927, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2023.

The Man nobody knows; a discovery of Jesus by Bruce Barton
Copyright registration by the author in 1925, copyright later renewed, copyright now expires in 2021.

Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler
The original German text is in copyright in the US until 2021, and in the EU until 2015. English and other versions would need to factor in the lifespan of the translator also, but no translation can enter the Public Domain, even if explicitly made PD, until the original is PD too.

Men Like Gods by H. G. Wells
First published in 1923, US copyright will expire in 2019.

The Notebook by Nicholas Sparks
First published in 1996, US copyright will expire 70 years after the death of its author.

Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
First published in 1937, US copyright will expire in 2033.

Oil, by Upton Sinclair
First published in 1927, copyright renewed 1954, US copyright expires 31 Dec 2022, will be Public Domain 1 Jan 2023.

Orlando, by Virginia Woolf
First published in 1928, copyright renewed 9 Nov 1955, US copyright expires 31 Dec 2023, will be Public Domain 1 Jan 2024.

Out of Africa, by Isak Dinesen
First published in the US in 1938, US copyright will expire in 2034.

Ovid's Metamorphoses translated by A. S. Kline
Copyright 2000, All Rights Reserved
This work MAY be FREELY reproduced, stored and transmitted, electronically or otherwise, for any NON-COMMERCIAL purpose.
This can't be read at LibriVox because we release all our recordings into the public domain -- that means there are no limitations on the uses people can put them to ... including selling them commercially, which conflicts with the 'Creative Commons' license used by the translator. This particular translation will enter the public domain 70 years after the death of its translator. Older translations are recordable, for example, here.

The Pearl by John Steinbeck
First published in 1947, Copyright renewed in 1974. US copyright will expire in 2043.

The Phantom Tollbooth by Norton Juster
First published in 1961, US copyright will expire in 2057.

Precious Bane: A Novel by Mary Webb
First published in 1924 outside the US, published in the US in 1926, US copyright will expire in 2022.

The Prophet by Khalil Gibran
First published in 1923, copyright later renewed, US copyright will expire in 2019.

The Quiet American by Graham Greene
First published in 1955, US copyright will expire in 2051.

A Roving Commission by Winston Spencer Churchill
First published in 1930, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2026.

The Stranger, or The Outsider, or L’Étranger by Albert Camus
First published in 1942, US copyright in the French text will expire in 2038. No translations can be in the public domain until after that date.

The Trial by Franz Kafka
First published posthumously in 1925, US copyright on the German version will expire in 2021.
The first English translation was done by Willa & Edwin Muir in 1937. That edition's copyright will expire in 2033.
The version on Project Gutenberg is copyrighted.

We the Living by Ayn Rand
First published in 1936, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2032.

West Side Story by Arthur Laurents
First published in 1957, copyright later renewed, US copyright now expires in 2053.


Books by Agatha Christie -- only her first two books, The Mysterious Affair at Styles and The Secret Adversary are in the US public domain. Both have been recorded for LibriVox, but her estate disputed the legality of that, since the site was founded (and the domain name owned) by a Canadian. Christie's estate had taken an issue with this technicality and approached Hugh. LV was threatened with legal action at the time if we did not remove the recordings -- even though the files were stored in the US, as all our files are, at archive.org. Since Christie died in 1976, her works will be PD in Canada at the start of 2027, and LibriVox should be safe to record all her works published before 1932 (because US copyright law is in play too, of course -- covering everything published 95+ years before 2027.)

Books by Cory Doctorow -- although these are often released under Creative Commons licences, that still limits what can be done with the file and is not the same as being in the Public Domain. 70 years after author's death, unless he puts them into the PD before that.

Books by Stephen King -- enter the public domain 70 years after author's death.
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Post by klcislc » December 27th, 2008, 4:28 pm

I wish I knew when her books were published... At any rate, I would love to help record her works if they are available for the public domain.
Do you know if they are in the public domain?

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Post by ductapeguy » December 27th, 2008, 4:41 pm

There is a Wikipedia Article on her at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilie_Loring

She was born in 1864 and died in 1951.

Her published works run from 1922 to the 1970s.

Only the first, published in 1922 The Trail of Conflict (Penn) is PD in the United States. All the rest are almost certainly still under copyright.

I don't know if there are any online sources for the trail of Conflict. I just did a cursory wikipedia search. Other volunteers more knowledgeable about copyright than I may have some other insights into this author.
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Post by AnnSterling » August 10th, 2009, 11:22 am

How about Julian of Norwich's writings? Are these avaliable? They are hundreds of years old.
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Post by Tom Jeffers » November 9th, 2009, 11:22 am

Anything by Robert E. Howard legal?

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Post by Cori » November 9th, 2009, 11:38 am

There's nothing at the US Project Gutenberg, or on the Pending Arrival at PG list, which isn't a great sign ... but if you feel like some detective work, Tom, then PG-Australia has some online texts, and there is an interesting piece of discussion here about the possible ins and outs of legalities ... combining the two of those might get you somewhere. Anything published before 1923 would be fine ... things published after that (in the US) need to have been non-copyright renewed in the US. (Outside the US is different again, and in most countries, all his work is PD -- but our files are stored in the US, so must follow that law too. It's not too hard to check with books, but is a bit more complicated with short stories that were published in magazines.)

The best bet would be to research some likely-looking stories, and then try to clear them through the Gutenberg system (they are lawyers who have a fairly firm grasp of the system. Rule 6 is the key one in use, although helpfully, that page is empty at the moment.)
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Post by wimberprincess » November 21st, 2009, 4:43 pm

Are there different laws for old scientific books/works/treatises-- like Newton's Principia or da Vinci's notebooks?

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Post by Steampunk » November 21st, 2009, 5:12 pm

wimberprincess wrote:Are there different laws for old scientific books/works/treatises-- like Newton's Principia or da Vinci's notebooks?
As long as it's pre-1923 it's public domain. However, in cases like you cite, you'd have to make sure you're reading from originals, transcriptions, or translations which are also public domain.

A straight copy of a public domain work is generally public domain also. However any "sweat of the brow" added such as translation, illustration, significant editing, et cetera carries a new copyright with it.


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Post by Jacquerie » February 3rd, 2010, 6:20 pm

I notice that Death Comes for the Archbishop, and Shadow on the Rocks, though in the public domain per David's list, aren't in gutenberg or archive.org. Is that an oversight, or is there some reason they aren't available in text form?

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Post by RuthieG » February 3rd, 2010, 6:29 pm

The entries on David's list of works in progress have an 'a' after them, which indicates that they are PD in Australia, and are on the Gutenberg Australia site.

Death Comes for the Archbishop was published in 1927 and US copyright was renewed in 1955, so that is not in the Public Domain, and will be under copyright until 2023, as far as I can see.

Shadows on the Rock was published 1931 and copyright was renewed in 1958, so won't be PD until 2027.

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Post by Jacquerie » February 3rd, 2010, 7:15 pm

RuthieG wrote:The entries on David's list of works in progress have an 'a' after them, which indicates that they are PD in Australia, and are on the Gutenberg Australia site.

Death Comes for the Archbishop was published in 1927 and US copyright was renewed in 1955, so that is not in the Public Domain, and will be under copyright until 2023, as far as I can see.

Shadows on the Rock was published 1931 and copyright was renewed in 1958, so won't be PD until 2027.

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Post by darrin2520 » February 16th, 2010, 10:22 am

I see several Steinbeck books in the copyrighted list, but not the Grapes of Wrath. I don't believe that this is in the Public Domain, nor are any of Steinbecks books that I could see, but I just wanted to confirm that.

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Post by Cori » February 16th, 2010, 11:07 am

No, nothing that Steinbeck wrote will enter the public domain until 2023 at the earliest, and most quite a long time after that.
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Post by Kwai » March 17th, 2010, 9:42 pm

Will the book Zhuang Zi ever appear on the catalog? It must be in the public domain, the author died over 2000 years ago. It is one of the three most important Taoist books, The Tao Teh Ching and Lieh Tse are already available on the catalog, only Zhuang Zi is missing.

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Post by annise » March 17th, 2010, 10:42 pm

We hope that all PD books will appear in the catalogue one day but people pick what they wish to record , and no one has picked that one yet :(

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